Why are Philosophers so disliked?

[Sculptor1]

This topic is inspired by Stevie when he wrote: But it appears that philosophical thinking as such is superfluous in terms of everyday life.

What is great about philosophy is that it is a method of thinking.
Step one:
assertion: Why are Philosophers so disliked?

Please cite evidence!

[gad-fly]

I think that the brains of philosophers are simply led astray by their own capacitities.

That is no reason to dislike them. Simply give them the cold shoulder is good enough. The reason : they lead you astray, they confuse you ,and they defy your commonsense, to the extent that you want them to vanish.

[Sunday66]

I think that the brains of philosophers are simply led astray by their own capacitities.

That is no reason to dislike them. Simply give them the cold shoulder is good enough. The reason : they lead you astray, they confuse you ,and they defy your commonsense, to the extent that you want them to vanish.

Hey dude! Why do you come to a philosophy forum to say you do not like philosophy?!

[gad-fly]

Hey dude! Why do you come to a philosophy forum to say you do not like philosophy?!

Did I say that? Please quote. In any case, I shall not respond on personal issue except this once, since it is not relevant.

[Sunday66]

Hey dude! Why do you come to a philosophy forum to say you do not like philosophy?!

Did I say that? Please quote. In any case, I shall not respond on personal issue except this once, since it is not relevant.

You're not relevant.

[stevie]

Maybe some have compassion with philosophers? Now compassion isn't my cup of tea but dislike in the sense of Merriam Webster's "a feeling of aversion or disapproval" isn't either. I'd opt for equanimity. A philosopher has the right to act and express himself as a philosopher, of course. But since I am not morally obliged to engage in her/his kind of thinking and her/his verbal expressions may appear weird or useless or wrong to me I may just ignore the verbal philosophical expressions of philosophers. Do I dislike philosophers? No, why should I?

This post poses an analysis of a phenomenon, but not a persuasion to like or dislike philosophers. Do I like or dislike? That is another issue. As you have said, a philosopher has the right, like you and everyone else.

The phenomenon: Most (but not all) dislike philosophers. They are hard nuts to crack, at the same time as they may to crack you instead. I am not saying hard nuts are bad.

I think that the brains of philosophers are simply led astray by their own capacitities.

Why do you log on to a philosophy forum to say you don't like philosophy?!

It's not dislike, it's investigation.

[stevie]

I think that the brains of philosophers are simply led astray by their own capacitities.

That is no reason to dislike them. Simply give them the cold shoulder is good enough. The reason : they lead you astray, they confuse you ,and they defy your commonsense, to the extent that you want them to vanish.

It's not dislike, it's investigation.
Actually the fact that there are philsopher's is to my benefit.

[LuckyR]

People are put off by (labeled) philosophers for the same reason that folks are put off by (labeled) vegans or vegetarians. Namely, because meat eaters imagine that vegans think they are their (in this case, moral) superiors. Now it doesn't matter what the vegan really thinks, it is an extrapolation of prior experience with pompous vegans (stereotyping) or perhaps guilt, ifbthe meateater is aware of industrial ranching practices. Similarly, folks assume that philosophers think they are intellectually superior. Again it doesn't matter what the pholopher thinks, people are uncomfortable, could be because they know that they focus on superficial topics.

[Wizard22]

This topic is inspired by Stevie when he wrote: But it appears that philosophical thinking as such is superfluous in terms of everyday life.

Philosophers here and elsewhere are sad, nettlesome, and excitable lots, difficult to get rid off. Either they have no common sense, or else the defiance of commonsense must be a prerequisite in their being.

Say you are angry. That anger arrives in you naturally. A social worker will calm you down; a fellow walker will be by your side; a scientist will explain your symptom; a nurse will treat your discomfort; and so on. But what does a philosopher do? He will tell you to establish your anger. He will ask you to ascertain whether your anger is real, or is it only what you imagine. He will tell you that you are angry because you are conscious. Thank you. I won't be angry if I am dead.

Take another example. If you are hit by a falling apple, the philosopher will ask: Are you sure you are not hitting the apple instead. Since you are so conscious of being hit, your consciousness is real, and you being hit is but an illusion. Does that help?

Most would be polite enough not to hurt a philosopher with such good intention. Thanks but no thanks. Your point is taken. Don't call me. I call you.

Fair, isn't it. If a philosopher has plenty of time to waste, it is none of your business .The trouble; he is wasting your time, to the extent that you would be annoyed. Or shall I say: you don't like him. If you are brave enough, you may look him in the eye, and you would say to him, "Enough. I know."

My experiences with other philosophers and philosophy, is different than you ascribe. In my experiences, Philosophers are highly combative, argumentative, and especially Obnoxiously so. The philosophical mind is Obsessive and Perfectionist, highly logical and rational. Most people don't like Philosophy and Philosophers for this reason, and the dislike goes both ways. The Philosopher tends not to like the simple-minded, as the simple-minded does not like Philosophy.

Think of it this way...you put in a lot of hours into your thoughts and ideas, like a painter painting a painting. That painter doesn't want to interact with people who simply dismiss it and criticize it, without attempting to understand with it or empathize with it. You worked hard on that painting it, you developed your skills for years, and an average person says "that's worthless". This can be analogized with Philosophy. Normal people don't know, and don't care, the time and effort that goes into "Thoughts" and "Thinking".

Nor do normal people comprehend the Legacy of Philosophical ancestors, who have literally paved the way to the world as it is now, and how it will become in the future.

[gad-fly]

People are put off by (labeled) philosophers for the same reason that folks are put off by (labeled) vegans or vegetarians. Namely, because meat eaters imagine that vegans think they are their (in this case, moral) superiors. Now it doesn't matter what the vegan really thinks, it is an extrapolation of prior experience with pompous vegans (stereotyping) or perhaps guilt, ifbthe meateater is aware of industrial ranching practices. Similarly, folks assume that philosophers think they are intellectually superior. Again it doesn't matter what the pholopher thinks, people are uncomfortable, could be because they know that they focus on superficial topics.

You are putting it simplistically. When two ideas like meat eating and vegetarian are opposite, they disagree, but not necessarily dislike each other. Same applies to the religious and atheist. Not sure? You can ask the church. It welcomes anyone.

Dislike occurs when it becomes bothersome. Say if you are a capitalist, and some socialist keep nagging you. You will dislike him. "Give me a break."

[Sunday66]

This post poses an analysis of a phenomenon, but not a persuasion to like or dislike philosophers. Do I like or dislike? That is another issue. As you have said, a philosopher has the right, like you and everyone else.

The phenomenon: Most (but not all) dislike philosophers. They are hard nuts to crack, at the same time as they may to crack you instead. I am not saying hard nuts are bad.

I think that the brains of philosophers are simply led astray by their own capacitities.

Why do you log on to a philosophy forum to say you don't like philosophy?!

It's not dislike, it's investigation.

Investigating what, your dislike of philosophy?!

[stevie]

I think that the brains of philosophers are simply led astray by their own capacitities.

Why do you log on to a philosophy forum to say you don't like philosophy?!

It's not dislike, it's investigation.

Investigating what, your dislike of philosophy?!

Philosophizing about philosophy and "philosophers" still is philosophy, isn't it?

[Sunday66]

Why do you log on to a philosophy forum to say you don't like philosophy?!

It's not dislike, it's investigation.

Investigating what, your dislike of philosophy?!

Philosophizing about philosophy and "philosophers" still is philosophy, isn't it?

No. Just complaining that you don't like philosophy. Weird.

[stevie]

It's not dislike, it's investigation.

Investigating what, your dislike of philosophy?!

Philosophizing about philosophy and "philosophers" still is philosophy, isn't it?

No. Just complaining that you don't like philosophy. Weird.

You seem to be obsessed about "like" and "dislike" which are emotions. I prefer philosophy over emotions.

[Sunday66]

Investigating what, your dislike of philosophy?!

Philosophizing about philosophy and "philosophers" still is philosophy, isn't it?

No. Just complaining that you don't like philosophy. Weird.

You seem to be obsessed about "like" and "dislike" which are emotions. I prefer philosophy over emotions.

This conversation is pointless and I will no longer participate.