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Re: What's the meaning of life?

Posted: June 13th, 2018, 12:50 pm
by MrE
Why does life have to have meaning or purpose? This is strictly, as far as we know, just a human concept. The best answer that I have come across that I believe makes a good case is that we ARE the universe experiencing itself through consciousness.

Re: What's the meaning of life?

Posted: June 14th, 2018, 3:46 am
by Belindi
MrE wrote:
we ARE the universe experiencing itself through consciousness.
I like that 'meaning of life'.

Do you think that there is an end to what consciousness can reveal, which some people define as God ? Or is consciousness engaged in a constant struggle to find to meaning until the finish of the Universe?

Re: What's the meaning of life?

Posted: June 14th, 2018, 4:04 am
by ThomasHobbes
SimpleGuy wrote:
May 24th, 2018, 11:36 am
Some modern String theories assum at least 10 dimensions.
These are just mathematical models. - Has nothing to do with reality, like God.

Re: What's the meaning of life?

Posted: June 14th, 2018, 11:02 am
by LuckyR
ThomasHobbes wrote:
June 14th, 2018, 4:04 am
SimpleGuy wrote:
May 24th, 2018, 11:36 am
Some modern String theories assum at least 10 dimensions.
These are just mathematical models. - Has nothing to do with reality, like God.
Did you cross a bridge on your way to work today?

Re: What's the meaning of life?

Posted: June 14th, 2018, 3:25 pm
by MrE
Belindi wrote:
June 14th, 2018, 3:46 am
MrE wrote:
we ARE the universe experiencing itself through consciousness.
I like that 'meaning of life'.

Do you think that there is an end to what consciousness can reveal, which some people define as God? Or is consciousness engaged in a constant struggle to find to meaning until the finish of the Universe?
I don't think consciousness is struggling to find meaning. We experiencing human consciousness are. All other life forms experience their own type of "consciousness", used loosely, which is completely different from the consciousness we experience. The universe as a whole is using us and everything else as "tools" to experience itself. It is us, it is everything not us.

Re: What's the meaning of life?

Posted: June 14th, 2018, 6:30 pm
by ThomasHobbes
LuckyR wrote:
June 14th, 2018, 11:02 am
ThomasHobbes wrote:
June 14th, 2018, 4:04 am


These are just mathematical models. - Has nothing to do with reality, like God.
Did you cross a bridge on your way to work today?
No, do you sleep under one?

Re: What's the meaning of life?

Posted: June 15th, 2018, 1:56 am
by LuckyR
ThomasHobbes wrote:
June 14th, 2018, 6:30 pm
LuckyR wrote:
June 14th, 2018, 11:02 am


Did you cross a bridge on your way to work today?
No, do you sleep under one?
Did I offend you?

Re: What's the meaning of life?

Posted: June 15th, 2018, 2:07 am
by Maxcady10001
LuckyR
You have to admit that was a good line. "No, do you sleep under one?"

Thomas Hobbes
You completely missed the point.

Re: What's the meaning of life?

Posted: June 15th, 2018, 3:45 am
by Belindi
Lucky, if "did you cross a bridge----?" describes string theory I wish you would explain the analogy as I'd like to know a little about string theory.

Re: What's the meaning of life?

Posted: June 15th, 2018, 3:48 am
by Maxcady10001
I believe he meant bridges are real and based on mathematical models.

Re: What's the meaning of life?

Posted: June 15th, 2018, 4:52 am
by Belindi
Maxcady10001 wrote:
June 15th, 2018, 3:48 am
I believe he meant bridges are real and based on mathematical models.
Oh. Thanks Maxcady.

Re: What's the meaning of life?

Posted: June 15th, 2018, 8:55 am
by 3uGH7D4MLj
Maxcady10001 wrote:
June 15th, 2018, 3:48 am
I believe he meant bridges are real and based on mathematical models.
I was hoping it was a complete nonsequitur.

Re: What's the meaning of life?

Posted: June 15th, 2018, 10:39 am
by ThomasHobbes
Maxcady10001 wrote:
June 15th, 2018, 3:48 am
I believe he meant bridges are real and based on mathematical models.
Bridges have been built and have worked fine long before any mathematical models.
He was putting the cart before the horse.
The earth has been going round the sun long before Kepler figured it all out.

Re: What's the meaning of life?

Posted: June 15th, 2018, 11:25 am
by LuckyR
Maxcady10001 wrote:
June 15th, 2018, 2:07 am
LuckyR
You have to admit that was a good line. "No, do you sleep under one?"

Thomas Hobbes
You completely missed the point.
No doubt, I was a little disappointed that there wasn't a rimshot after it (so I provided one! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpaOy8b8X6A )

Re: What's the meaning of life?

Posted: June 15th, 2018, 11:32 am
by LuckyR
ThomasHobbes wrote:
June 15th, 2018, 10:39 am
Maxcady10001 wrote:
June 15th, 2018, 3:48 am
I believe he meant bridges are real and based on mathematical models.
Bridges have been built and have worked fine long before any mathematical models.
He was putting the cart before the horse.
The earth has been going round the sun long before Kepler figured it all out.
Well since advanced engineering principles existed before 2600 BCE, and the first known bridges are from about only 1500 BCE, I am not sure what type of bridges you are referring to that predated mathematical models