How To Have Productive Philosophical Conversations
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If this is not abstract I don't know what abstract is.
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-- Updated December 30th, 2013, 6:21 pm to add the following --
That is not abstract.Rayliikanen wrote:For an example of an abstract child, spawned by philosophy, and Kant, you can check out my child at Causalargument.com
If this is not abstract I don't know what abstract is.
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As an interesting side topic I think that the ability to communicate without language is one of the primary functions of art. You can, for example, try to use language to communicate the nostalgia and angst of lost love in Paris, or you can sum it up with one guitar rift by Gary Moore.
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You are welcome. I have commented.3uGH7D4MLj wrote:Hi John, Interesting comment, thanks. Words and thoughts. I'll have to look up Korzybski. I started a topic concerning this:
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The question in my mind is, if the person isn't as clear as they can be, they certainly haven't grasped fundamental building blocks in education. Philosophy is a more esoteric discipline, as is astrophysics, and so forth. If there is from the very first sentence, an incompleteness, and continual incoherence throughout the post, then either the person has little to no education, or they have no regard for their audience. They simply want to dodge around statements and ideas. If they have no education (not necessarily schooling), then they won't know definitions, references, and generally will not follow up as a scholar. If they have no regard for their audience, then nothing productive will come of stubbornness, especially in a realm where some of the central tenets are: respect, curiosity, open-mindedness, and even the ability to explicate complex ideas they may have into a more public domain.
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Some concrete ideas are complex, such as are many ideas from the sciences. 'Complex' and 'abstract' are not the same. Philosophy deals in abstractions from the concrete. An utterance might be rude or discourteous but will still be philosophical ( or mathematical) if it deals in abstract ideas.even the ability to explicate complex ideas they may have into a more public domain.
Scott's advice regarding the use of the General Philosophy part of the Forum is an example of advice to omit the concrete, which is to be confined to the Philosophers' Lounge.
However the advice in 'How to Have Productive Philosophical Conversations' is not about content but about debating style.This forum is NOT for factual, informational or scientific questions about philosophy
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Here it may be noted that the subject of the XavierAlex's quoted sentence isn't "complex" or "ideas", but the ability--should one choose to do so.Belinda wrote:XavierAlex wrote:
Some concrete ideas are complex, such as are many ideas from the sciences. 'Complex' and 'abstract' are not the same. Philosophy deals in abstractions from the concrete. An utterance might be rude or discourteous but will still be philosophical ( or mathematical) if it deals in abstract ideas.even the ability to explicate complex ideas they may have into a more public domain.
Scott's advice regarding the use of the General Philosophy part of the Forum is an example of advice to omit the concrete, which is to be confined to the Philosophers' Lounge.
However the advice in 'How to Have Productive Philosophical Conversations' is not about content but about debating style.This forum is NOT for factual, informational or scientific questions about philosophy
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Professionalism at best, is but glorified ignorance in disguise.
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