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Re: How To Have Productive Philosophical Conversations

Post by HexHammer » March 3rd, 2012, 5:20 pm

Sorry to say that the initial post only have the premesis for a cozy chat, not philosophy at all.

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Re: How To Have Productive Philosophical Conversations

Post by Rodrigo » April 5th, 2012, 2:56 pm

It's good to do the "sandwich" strategy. If you want to criticize, you first say a compliment, you say "but" and criticize, and then you finish the sandwich with another nice thing. :)

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Re: How To Have Productive Philosophical Conversations

Post by BLitTzYnApTiCz » April 5th, 2012, 3:03 pm

If everybody communicated this way on Earth that would probably benefit the status quo better than any invention to date IMO.

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Re: How To Have Productive Philosophical Conversations

Post by heeltap » April 8th, 2012, 7:27 pm

" You ask: Online Philosophy Club - Please tell me how to improve this website!" Scott, I hit the link and it had no place to comment on how to improve this website!

I would like to help you or the club in some limited way.

Sincerely, heeltap age 60, MIT73 Retired but plan to travel as much as I can afford until Death Comes.

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HexHammer wrote:Sorry to say that the initial post only have the premesis for a cozy chat, not philosophy at all.
Sometimes the humanity some seek is absent in the forum. We are humans first and philosophers second. It seems to me, Hexhammer you would prefer the human parts, IF YOU COULD! Do you have a postive comment to share with the Club? The topic here is about how to have productive (friendly--my add) philosophical discussions. Is your post here your contribution? Let's be more upbeat here! Tom

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Post by HexHammer » April 8th, 2012, 11:26 pm

heeltap wrote:Sometimes the humanity some seek is absent in the forum. We are humans first and philosophers second. It seems to me, Hexhammer you would prefer the human parts, IF YOU COULD! Do you have a postive comment to share with the Club? The topic here is about how to have productive (friendly--my add) philosophical discussions. Is your post here your contribution? Let's be more upbeat here! Tom
So you demand that if someone speaks up, they must have the perfect solution to everything? That is unreasonable.

Those who are human, should go to ordinary chat fora, but why not try to encourage people to actually do basic philosophy, instead of babble and raving?

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Re: How To Have Productive Philosophical Conversations

Post by heeltap » April 9th, 2012, 4:13 pm

How we say things matters as much as the content of what we have to say.

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Re: How To Have Productive Philosophical Conversations

Post by Dreager » April 13th, 2012, 10:24 am

Great, now I just need some practise. As a new member this spellcheck is interesting, I like it. Might run into trouble with Australian spellings of words though...

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Re: How To Have Productive Philosophical Conversations

Post by Hjarloprillar » April 24th, 2012, 1:26 pm

Scott wrote:How To Have Productive Philosophical Conversations
by Scott Hughes

When discussing complex topics such as philosophy, skillful conversation becomes even more important.

Well said

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heeltap wrote:How we say things matters as much as the content of what we have to say.
very Well said.

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Post by Okisites » April 30th, 2012, 8:34 am

Sir Scott,

I had a several ideas for making the forum more better and such that we can arrive to the conclusions of the discussions. As it is forum message to suggest to make forum better and i unfortunately didn't found from where we have to give suggestions. Clicking on the link of such message i unfortunately didn't found anything where we can suggest so i was sending a private message.

1) Try give the extra space for every member to point out their conclusion(in short and in statement and not sentences) over their thought about the topic. Try help every member to understand that to which extent this discussion is already gone through by putting the extra page about the conclusions(with post No) over the topic so as the members can understand to whom they have to agree or disagree in very short. This will also help them by reading the conclusion that which member may had given almost unlikely opinion for the topic to which they are still not thought about. They will like to read the post.

2)Try giving the extra pop-up bracket for rating of the opinion and an indicator revealing about the ratings about that opinion. The rating could be between i) agree considerably but disagree partially, ii) agree partially but disagree considerably, iii) totally disagree, iv) totally agree, v) didn't understood, vi) half-half, vii) distracted, viii) perfectly solved, ix) you fool, x)absurd and also star indicator of rating. Do not let any rating area activated for the topic maker however it may be. If possible activate the rating area after the member is attended a page or opinion for more than 5 minutes. This may motivate members to give calculated opinion, behave in manners, do not hurt post maker, use proper stand and much more.

3)Try give link for any member to read any other member’s all the post at one place regarding different topics and do reveal how much time it had been read or viewed. Such that I want to read “Universal integrity’s” all the post, I like his post much. This will also help motivate the person in many ways as you can understand. This is also good for much more good reason and not bad.

Sir, this is my suggestion that how could we make the forum more better and I hope you will give your careful sights towards this. I will be very glad if you did as I suggested.

Regards,

Do anybody can suggest me from where we can send a suggestion to the forum administration, I did it by sending it from Scott's private message but, i think it didn't sent because the message appears in my outbox and not in sent messages.
Get the facts, or the facts will get you. And when you get them, get them right, or they will get you wrong.” ― Thomas Fuller

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Re: How To Have Productive Philosophical Conversations

Post by Hjarloprillar » May 4th, 2012, 6:05 am

Okisites wrote: 'more better'
Well done. English is what? LOL If you want to be heard. Persevere

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Re: How To Have Productive Philosophical Conversations

Post by Bricklayer » May 7th, 2012, 10:33 pm

Denise and I taught our seven children (all grown now) that recess is the most important class in school because if you can't get along with other people, it doesn't matter what else you know.

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Re: How To Have Productive Philosophical Conversations

Post by Belinda » May 8th, 2012, 2:49 am

This is unfair to autistic people. It is also unfair to children who in a more minor way lack the talent for getting on with others, as too challenging for them.Some if not most children need simple training in civility in various social situations and unless the child is autistic or otherwise unwell it is not difficult to learn.

There is also the case that children and adults can be trained to be civil to others, and such training may overcome initial lack of intuitive talent. If members accept Scott's advice they will help to train themselves to be civil to others in real life as well as aiding the progress of learning for themselves and others in philosophyclub.
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Re: How To Have Productive Philosophical Conversations

Post by Bricklayer » May 8th, 2012, 8:04 am

Belinda wrote:This is unfair to autistic people. It is also unfair to children who in a more minor way lack the talent for getting on with others, as too challenging for them.Some if not most children need simple training in civility in various social situations and unless the child is autistic or otherwise unwell it is not difficult to learn.

There is also the case that children and adults can be trained to be civil to others, and such training may overcome initial lack of intuitive talent. If members accept Scott's advice they will help to train themselves to be civil to others in real life as well as aiding the progress of learning for themselves and others in philosophyclub.
Thus the class called recess.

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Re: How To Have Productive Philosophical Conversations

Post by Belinda » May 9th, 2012, 2:08 am

I guess I don't know what you mean by 'recess'. I had thought it meant a break from classes.

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HexHammer wrote:Sorry to say that the initial post only have the premesis for a cozy chat, not philosophy at all.
Do you mean this bit of the original post, Hexhammer?
If you genuinely try to have a productive conversation, you almost always will. Most people do philosophy for fun out of interest, so why not try to have a productive conversation when discussing philosophy? Whatever you do, good luck and have fun!
Then I agree that philosophy is much more than fun, or 'interest', but is a lot more serious than those. Sometimes we have to tolerate companions who are frivolous about the wide questions about life that others ask in a heartfelt way. I suppose each of us has the attitude we have and we cannot change each others' attitudes .
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Re: How To Have Productive Philosophical Conversations

Post by Karl » May 23rd, 2012, 6:25 pm

belinda said "
Sometimes we have to tolerate companions who are frivolous about the wide questions about life that others ask in a heartfelt way
Belinda just wondering who you are speaking for? unless you are are speaking for yourself? you really cannot speak for others on here or anywhere , for instance you mention a "heartfelt" way? what exactly do you mean by that assertion? explain how a heartfelt way can mean something to me? Seems you speak about intangible emotions yet somehow think they present facts.

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Belinda said
"There is also the case that children and adults can be trained to be civil to others, and such training may overcome initial lack of intuitive talent"
I ask Belinda to explain what intuitive talent is? further prove it exists?

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How To Have Productive Philosophical Conversations

It appears those teaching granny to suck eggs should take their own advice Scotty boy

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