Pattern-chaser wrote: ↑November 24th, 2021, 11:45 am If we accept, as I do, that Climate Change (and all the other environment-related issues) threatens the very existence of our species, other priorities fade in comparison.
No, I don't think Climate Change, alone, will result in our extinction. But CC is only part of the collapse of our ecosystem. [See below]GE Morton wrote: ↑November 24th, 2021, 1:10 pm It is true that the magnitude of a risk determines what mitigation measures are justifiable, with higher risks justifying more drastic measures. But there is utterly no evidence that the current warming trend would threaten the very existence of our species.
Pattern-chaser wrote:In that case, how can we survive our own inability to act? Compromise will deliver far too little, far too late. [Note that I don't argue with what you say, only with its consequences.]
Steve3007 wrote: ↑November 24th, 2021, 12:40 pm Well, what I've said so far in the last couple of posts in our conversation is based on the premise that I agree with you as to the seriousness and urgency of the problem. In reality, I don't. For one thing, I think it's a mistake to conflate different problems. The steep reduction of the number of wild animals in natural habitats which we discussed a while ago, for example, is not the same as the climate change problem. And, as I said in the previous post to which I linked recently, I think it's a mistake to lump all environmental "pollutants" together as if they're the same problem, with the same solution.
I don't think we can separate the different aspects of eco-collapse. Deforestation contributes directly to Climate Change, just as atmospheric pollution does, while extreme weather events - drought, floods, wildfires... - contribute to the deaths of many living creatures, if not extinctions. The whole thing seems linked in ways that make separate consideration incomplete, IMO.
Also, depending on how bad global warming gets, it is possible that temperatures will reach or exceed 50°C on a regular basis. In those parts of the world where that was the case (if it happens), human life is not really possible...?