Are we the last humans on Earth?
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Are we the last humans on Earth?
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No way to really know one way or the other. Interesting. Which species are uselessly alive consuming resources? Aren't most species predators and prey?Jklint wrote:Eventually there will be a last generation but the current one and the next are still only intermediate toward that end. Besides, our work in planet destruction is not yet complete. The waters are still too pure and too many species uselessly alive consuming resources.
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Everything not human except what feeds them.Misty wrote: Which species are uselessly alive consuming resources?
That's the way it's been for a billion years and life proliferated immensely. Poachers and trophy hunters were not anywhere in sight.Aren't most species predators and prey?
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The species not feeding humans are important for the ecosystem, i.e., we don't eat bees but they are important.Jklint wrote:Everything not human except what feeds them.Misty wrote:
Which species are uselessly alive consuming resources?
That's the way it's been for a billion years and life proliferated immensely. Poachers and trophy hunters were not anywhere in sight.Aren't most species predators and prey?
How do you know poachers and trophy hunters did not exist in the distant past?
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I thought the dinosaurs died out because of a meteor.DarwinX wrote:Do you see any similarities between T-Rex and humans? Did T-Rex eat all its competitors until it had nothing left to eat but its own species?
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That's what they would like you to believe. Its nice and tidy, and doesn't have any repercussions, complications and is easy to understand. The reality is that T-Rex took millions of years to become extinct. It didn't happen as suddenly as they would make you believe. Note - all large land based dinosaurs have become extinct. This is because the Earth is expanding and gravity is slowly increasing.Misty wrote:I thought the dinosaurs died out because of a meteor.DarwinX wrote:Do you see any similarities between T-Rex and humans? Did T-Rex eat all its competitors until it had nothing left to eat but its own species?
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- What exactly are you trying to suggest we should do about the "uselessly alive species consuming resources" ?Jklint wrote: Eventually there will be a last generation but the current one and the next are still only intermediate toward that end. Besides, our work in planet destruction is not yet complete. The waters are still too pure and too many species uselessly alive consuming resources.
Ok, maybe you could consider that only humans and those species that feed humanity are not the ones "uselessly alive consuming resources". What about the species that don't feed humans (e.g. worms), but feed the species that do feed humans (some birds)? What about grass? Don't cows eat grass and drink water to produce milk and meat?Misty wrote: Which species are uselessly alive consuming resources?Jklint wrote: Everything not human except what feeds them.
Since you are evoking a principle of "extending humanity's existence", for the which it would be needed that "uselessly alive species" stop exhausting useful resources, that principle should be sustained objectively, don't you think? Evolution of the Species taken to the extreme, Survival of the Strongest, isn't it? How have you come to realize that humans should be the crowned ones to be in the Survivor's chair? Is it just because you are part of that species? What would happen if some Alien species would come to Earth, and that species proved to be far more intelligent than humans, should then humanity be considered a "uselessly alive species" and hence should perish in order to guarantee availability of useful resources needed by that Alien species?
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Unusual usage. I've only seen one other poster here use it. It looks like it's being used as the singular of "species". But, as far as I know, the singular of species is species, isn't it?specie
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I suspect that when Jklint wrote this, he/she was deliberately being cynically ironic, to make a point, and should not be taken as literally believing, as a personal value judgement, that waters are too pure or other species needlessly alive.Eventually there will be a last generation but the current one and the next are still only intermediate toward that end. Besides, our work in planet destruction is not yet complete. The waters are still too pure and too many species uselessly alive consuming resources.
It's interesting though, to consider whether there will in fact one day be an identifiable "last generation" of humans. Was there a definitively identifiable first generation? I think the evidence suggests not. But I guess there is an asymmetry in nature there: Sudden, discontinuous extinction is perfectly possible whereas sudden discontinuous creation is, evidence suggests, not.
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Not to my defense, but to give an explanation to this, I'm just a native spanish speaker trying to defend myself in english. In Romanic languages (spanish, portuguese, italian, french), singular words almost never end in "s", and since "species" was not on my regular top-100 word list, I didn't know it was the same in singular/plural.Steve3007 wrote:Ghostpy:Unusual usage. I've only seen one other poster here use it. It looks like it's being used as the singular of "species". But, as far as I know, the singular of species is species, isn't it?specie
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Well, that would be your interpretation. As far as it goes, Misty and I have interpreted the statement in a literally sense, and to support that Point of View, Steve3007 himself reasserted his statement when he answered:Steve3007 wrote:Jklint:I suspect that when Jklint wrote this, he/she was deliberately being cynically ironic, to make a point, and should not be taken as literally believing, as a personal value judgement, that waters are too pure or other species needlessly alive.Eventually there will be a last generation but the current one and the next are still only intermediate toward that end. Besides, our work in planet destruction is not yet complete. The waters are still too pure and too many species uselessly alive consuming resources.
As far as I can see, it is only you who claims it is a cynically ironic statement, not to be taken literally believing.Misty wrote:Which species are uselessly alive consuming resources?Steve3007 wrote:Everything not human except what feeds them.
Let's wait for Jklint to enlighten us.
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Ah! OK. Please don't feel you have to apologize or change the usage of the word. You defend yourself very well in a language that is not your first. Far better than I would be able to do in Spanish. (I confess I had to copy your Spanish sentence into Google Translate). I see nothing wrong with a bit of linguistic variation. Language is, after all, a constantly evolving phenomenon. I was just curious. Maybe the other poster I saw using it was also Spanish!Not to my defense, but to give an explanation to this, I'm just a native spanish speaker trying to defend myself in english...
Yes, I think we will have to do that. Jklint ... over to you....Let's wait for Jklint to enlighten us.
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In Latin, "specie" is the ablative singular of "species".
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Mystery solved. Thanks.Consul wrote:In Latin, "specie" is the ablative singular of "species".
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