Does time move?
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Hi VW,VolatileWorld wrote:What do you think about Bergson and his pure mobility? I think pure mobility is the movement of time.
A quick internet check shows that pure mobility ties into duration. Bergson is seriously regarded by philosophers so I would say his views about time may be correct.
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It all comes down to relativity and mathematics. One year to a four year old is 1/4 of his life. One year to a 40 year old is only 1/40th of his life.
At 4 years old, life moves at 4 miles an hour. At 40, life moves at 40 miles an hour. It's all relative.
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Although the Earth is spinning, we do not see it spinning, it appears to be stationary. The Sun appears to be moving across the sky, but in fact the Sun is stationary in relation to the Earth.
It is the same with time. Although the present moment appears to be moving, it is stationary in relation to changes. Changes happen within the present moment. Numbers moving within the present moment, give the illusion of time, but it is always "now". We simply label that which is always here, by different names and different numbers, as a matter of convenience.
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People and other creatures obviously have to deal with time distance in every interaction. Our vision evolved in accordance with such time distance affects. Why human eyes can not zoom a lot, like photo camera? I am sure they could evolve being just like that. However, that would fool the textile senses, not giving a chance to interact with a person who's super visible from far away, zoomed in, but can not be heard, can not be touched, no interaction. No interaction, no matter how zoomed is the image of another person, means no reproduction, no friends, no group where each member influences the other, or helps, or cares, or loves, or feeds, etc. Today we have Skype, which is quite limited in the same way, although works because society is quite developed. Lots of things and communication are done without direct interaction, and time distance is sort of, at least partially, bitten or ignored when can be. That is why we see person or object as a lot smaller the greater time distance is to this object or person. Smaller image means farther, unreachable, or harder to get to, not immediately important, distant, can be ignored. Can create longing, desire to reach, to get closer. Larger image means close, communicable, interactional, touchable, immediate, actual, important, deserving of attention. Or dangerous, causing desire to flee, depending on a content.
Conventional time, used on Earth for coordinating human behavior uses time belts, night, day, 24 hours. It is tied up to Earth, is super utilitarian and because of it is sort of out of deeper ways of understanding time, of scientific or philosophical nature.
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He may be an interesting read in regards to time.
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In a nutshell, my friends, this is the philosophy of the bloody obvious. So exquisitely simple and intuitive is this proposition that I hold it to be a self-evident truth. However because it contradicts the current models being used in physics, I assert that these models must be false. This is all I'm getting at.
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Doesn't energy move which has no substance?Reactor wrote:Time does not move because it has no substance.
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What do you think of the earth orbiting around the sun and the hands of a clock moving?Reactor wrote:Objects of energy are equivalent in some ways to objects of mass and both are subject to gravity, so both have substance.
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They are observations that have a very few similarities.What do you think of the earth orbiting around the sun and the hands of a clock moving?
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In some other post I mentioned that everything is velocity or speed and that may be creating the illusion of space. The universe is said to be in constant movement. By this I mean that all energy is in movement. Light plays the role of reflecting objects (energies) as it does to our eyes, among other things. It may be light itself that creates this illusion of space when in fact these energies (including matter) are not really separate but in constant movement in relation to the others. Light makes them seem separate when it all may be one big chunk of fluctuating energies...
Maybe Im watching too much sci-fi
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How does time play into this? Time is this comparison of speeds/velocities between these energies.
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1 conservation (existence over time)
Our reality is ultimately made of waves. Waves must flow to exist. The flow of the waves through space creates existence. This motion is undetectable to us, that suggests a constant linear motion (absence of acceleration forces). This "speed of existence" is c (speed of light). (The reasoning behind this claim is based on the behavior of light in a vacuum-I will address this later, if anyone is interested). So our reality is made of waves traveling at the speed of light and that means the "LAW OF CONSERVATION" is an outcome of this. It also means that we are going very close to perfect linear motion (at least under the conditions in which we evolved).
2 interaction (change over time)
Since everything in our galaxy is co-moving with regards to existence, every motion that we actually can detect are relatively slow (everyday-normal) motions of co-moving points of interest with an observer. This is what we perceive as time, a history of experiences of occurrences. This interaction is where complexity evolves. Complexity leads to fragility. Fragility makes survival factors important.
Does time move?
No. Time does not move. Reality moves through time.
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