Is there a way to refute '1+1 = 2'?
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In essence this appears to be an attempted equivalent refinement of current math as GR's refinement of Newtonian physics. The clockwork model of the present meets the interactive evolution of long time scales. I like it so far. My old mate Leo might have issues with the spatial component, but sometimes in these things we can use different terms to describe similar visualisations and concepts.
I never thought of algebra as a representation of space - a potential for a value to be in.
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Philosophy Explorer wrote:Try this. One lump of clay combined with one lump of clay is just one lump of clay.
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Two questions arise: 1.) Was it a larger lump of clay? 2.) Why add another without a purpose in mind?
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Wizard wrote:1+1=3 in binary language
So refutation occurs through varying context, convention, and logic.
In binary, there are only two possible answers, 0 or 1. Boolean suggests that 1+1=1, since any output of 1 can't be zero. This applies equally to all AND and OR functions.
I also suspect this was a trap...
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Then it means that math alreday presented us with relativity, before Einstein, only it did it withot saying it's relativity.Greta wrote:
1 + 1 = 2 is a statement of relativity. Maths is all about relativity - the comparison between entities.
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The Beast, you were trying to add youself. I think, in this light, that person's life is nothing but addition of self to self, which makes person grow, change and age. It is an addition of certain frequency, one that satisfies laws of continuation of life on a way to achieving finity.
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The Beast, you were trying to add youself. I think, in this light, that person's life is nothing but addition of self to self, which makes person grow, change and age. It is an addition of certain frequency, one that satisfies laws of continuation of life on a way to achieving finity. ( life is when death or nonexistence lost it's way).
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I agree, Conway. The morphing informational relationships between observed phenomena have always been present, whether they're observed by primates or not. What we have done is devise particular information-handling systems suitable to our collective capacities and circumstances.
Is it just arrogance that leads people to believe that math is a human invention? It's said that we invented math just as we invented saxophones, toasters, tennis etc, which is true but superficial because what we've done with math, or equivalent, would be achieved by any intelligent beings in the universe.
It's also said that we can't describe everything mathematically. Maybe. I've heard that there are physical limitations to our capacity to measure the universe and that the amount of equipment needed to measure all activity in the universe would be so great that it would collapse under its own weight and form a black hole:)
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What if you placed two objects on a table and for no apparent reason one broke into two parts, would there be two objects or three?MHopcroft1963 wrote:Let me see if this clarifies the situation.
Let's say you have one object on a table. It's doesn't matter what the object is. Then you find another object (again it doesn't matter what) and place it on the table. Now there are two objects on the table. You can repeat this process as often as you want, but not once will you be able to place one object and then another object and end up with three objects.
Every time you add one to one, you will always get two.
Why is it important that 1+1=2? Because mathematics is one of the principal tools by which we observe and quantify the physical universe. Math works.
I found It odd no one picked up on my post #17 about DNA.
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Why is a straight line and another straight line the same as a curvy line?Ramin22 wrote:Some claim that '1+1=2' is true."
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I do not think 1 thing broke in 2 is 2 of that thing. It is 2 of something new. That thing being .5 of the original thing. So while value remains the same, in any "thing" that is broken, that things space does not. Again the necessity for labeling of space and value in any symbolic number.
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The pictorial approach:Percarus wrote:1+1 = 11?
@ + @ = @@
¥ + ¥ + ¥ = ¥¥¥
etc.
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