The Ebola virus is a fraud
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Cancer is an oxygen deficiency problem which is exacerbated by a lack of iodine and vitamin C. You can't use a virus to kill a cancer. The human immune system only recognizes iodine and oxygen as the only agents that are capable of destroying cancer cells. Viruses are produced by the blood (microzymas) which are the solution to blood toxicity problems. A virus is not a disease, it is a immune system response to blood impurities and vitamin imbalances. Viruses are not contagious. Only stupidity is contagious.Cogito ergo sum wrote:
Iodine also is an important key player in apoptosis or pre-programmed cell death. Everyday around 50 million of your cells will go through pre-programmed cell death and about 0.0025 percent will be replaced. Iodine keeps that in check and makes sure that the cells that are supposed to die do so. It was put into our table salt in the 20's and also in our bread to counter a thyroid issue in the early 1900's. It has since been taken out of the bread but you can still find it in most table salts. This doesn't really have much function in viruses or diseases but it is interesting in the treatments of cancer. I had a theory that using a virus, which is basically a little tiny carrier of information, you could have the information for apoptosis put into a virus and since viruses will pick out the weak cells just like a lioness will pick out the weakest in the herd you could have an effective non invasive cancer treatment. I have no doubt that along side with a healthy diet or REAL food and fresh drinking water along with a virus intended to attack cancerous cells by implementing apoptosis you could really make a huge impact in cancer treatments. The idea of using radiation is absurd and counterproductive in the long run and does nothing but allow the patient to be in long term treatment which equals larger medical bills and more money in the pockets of organizations making short term and "effective" treatments. Now, is this some sort of conspiracy? I have no clue nor do I really care, the way I see it is that with any sort of policy or organization there are always going to be side effects, some of them can be good and some of them can be very bad. In the case of the healthcare system and large pharmaceutical industries I think like with anything else greed and power got the best of them and that is nothing new or revolutionary unless you just became aware one second ago. Is the ebola virus a fraud? has it been blown out of proportion and used to make some people rich? I don't see why that is such a hard idea to entertain, and it is most likely, judging by the way the media portrays anything has been blown of proportion to scare people. If you control what the people fear you can control everything about them. And the American people are the most terrified people I have ever come across.
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It's all just a big scam to make money. That's what happened. Health workers in Africa get $500 per hour. Pretty good money for wearing a silly and totally unnecessary white decontamination suit. It's a pity the pilot forgot to wear his decontamination suit when they brought back the infected worker.Misty wrote:Rederic, Thanks for the Spanish flu link. It has shown me that Ebola is not migrating the same way. Question: The first American doctor who came home to get treatment was with his family, wife and 2-3 children, 2 days before his diagnoses, yet they never got sick. (they flew back to the states) Why? Also with people leaving the states to work in places that have the disease, why didn't the United States make and have on hand medication in case this disease did get out? (there should have been a stock pile of treatment available) Ebola has been periodically in the news since 1976. Africa has kept it in control all those years - what happened?
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I do agree with a lot of what you try to get across on this issue. I believe big companies create a need for something they want to sell. Just like war is used to boost economics. I also think some conditions are created such as hypertension and meds given when not needed, which turns into one taking many medications as the meds create a need for another medication and before one knows it one is taking several meds to keep high blood pressure under control. It is extremely frustrating. There are so many "conditions" that did not exist when my parents were young. It seems I find few people not on some kind of medication these days. It is insane.DarwinX wrote:It's all just a big scam to make money. That's what happened. Health workers in Africa get $500 per hour. Pretty good money for wearing a silly and totally unnecessary white decontamination suit. It's a pity the pilot forgot to wear his decontamination suit when they brought back the infected worker.Misty wrote:Rederic, Thanks for the Spanish flu link. It has shown me that Ebola is not migrating the same way. Question: The first American doctor who came home to get treatment was with his family, wife and 2-3 children, 2 days before his diagnoses, yet they never got sick. (they flew back to the states) Why? Also with people leaving the states to work in places that have the disease, why didn't the United States make and have on hand medication in case this disease did get out? (there should have been a stock pile of treatment available) Ebola has been periodically in the news since 1976. Africa has kept it in control all those years - what happened?
Do you have a source for the $500 per hr pay for the health care workers in Africa?
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I agree with the monopolization and all, but now I am curious to why Cannabis helps cancer, I don't think it's iodine in it that causes it all.
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Misty wrote:I do agree with a lot of what you try to get across on this issue. I believe big companies create a need for something they want to sell. Just like war is used to boost economics. I also think some conditions are created such as hypertension and meds given when not needed, which turns into one taking many medications as the meds create a need for another medication and before one knows it one is taking several meds to keep high blood pressure under control. It is extremely frustrating. There are so many "conditions" that did not exist when my parents were young. It seems I find few people not on some kind of medication these days. It is insane.DarwinX wrote:
(Nested quote removed.)
It's all just a big scam to make money. That's what happened. Health workers in Africa get $500 per hour. Pretty good money for wearing a silly and totally unnecessary white decontamination suit. It's a pity the pilot forgot to wear his decontamination suit when they brought back the infected worker.
Do you have a source for the $500 per hr pay for the health care workers in Africa?
Hypertension is the result of a bad diet. Too much salt, grain foods and dairy foods which inflame, block and narrow the artery passageways causing high blood pressure, migraine headaches, heart attack and cancer. Doctors know this, but do nothing to either prevent it from occurring or to advise people to change their diets. This is because they don't don't want to contravene the basic 'kill the goose that lays the golden egg' principle. They would rather people either get sick or die than that they would become poorer and have less patients to attend to.
http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2014 ... work-ebola
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I think Cannabis is an anti-inflammatory chemical which assists the oxygen and iodine to reach the cancer site. Foods like dairy, grain, sugar and salt are blocking agents which prevent oxygen and iodine from reaching the cancer site. Therefore, I would recommend that any person who has cancer to avoid these food sources and eat more fruit, beans and vegetables which have a low glycemic index.Artimas wrote:If it is only iodine and oxygen that treat cancer, then how exactly can Cannabis help with killing cancer cells?
I agree with the monopolization and all, but now I am curious to why Cannabis helps cancer, I don't think it's iodine in it that causes it all.
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Sorry, but you have no clue what you're talking about. I deal with people with hypertension and diabetes on a daily basis. Health workers #physicians, dieticians, pharmacists, etc.# almost always recommend changes in diet, fat loss, increased physical activity, lifestyle changes. I make such recommendations on a daily basis and so do all physicians. The problem is individuals rarely follow these recommendations. For the rare ones that do...I've seen diabetic patients who were on 3 different diabetic medications #insulin, metformin and Diamicron# manage to go off pretty well off all of them due to major lifestyle changes, fat loss, more exercise, etc. but unfortunately most people do not make these changes. And once they go on insulin, it's very rare to see them come off and this has nothing to do with lack of trying by health workers.DarwinX wrote:This is because they don't don't want to contravene the basic 'kill the goose that lays the golden egg' principle. They would rather people either get sick or die than that they would become poorer and have less patients to attend to.
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Cancer is an oxygen deficiency problem which is exacerbated by a lack of iodine and vitamin C. You can't use a virus to kill a cancer. The human immune system only recognizes iodine and oxygen as the only agents that are capable of destroying cancer cells. Viruses are produced by the blood (microzymas) which are the solution to blood toxicity problems. A virus is not a disease, it is a immune system response to blood impurities and vitamin imbalances. Viruses are not contagious. Only stupidity is contagious.DarwinX wrote:Cogito ergo sum wrote:
Iodine also is an important key player in apoptosis or pre-programmed cell death. Everyday around 50 million of your cells will go through pre-programmed cell death and about 0.0025 percent will be replaced. Iodine keeps that in check and makes sure that the cells that are supposed to die do so. It was put into our table salt in the 20's and also in our bread to counter a thyroid issue in the early 1900's. It has since been taken out of the bread but you can still find it in most table salts. This doesn't really have much function in viruses or diseases but it is interesting in the treatments of cancer. I had a theory that using a virus, which is basically a little tiny carrier of information, you could have the information for apoptosis put into a virus and since viruses will pick out the weak cells just like a lioness will pick out the weakest in the herd you could have an effective non invasive cancer treatment. I have no doubt that along side with a healthy diet or REAL food and fresh drinking water along with a virus intended to attack cancerous cells by implementing apoptosis you could really make a huge impact in cancer treatments. The idea of using radiation is absurd and counterproductive in the long run and does nothing but allow the patient to be in long term treatment which equals larger medical bills and more money in the pockets of organizations making short term and "effective" treatments. Now, is this some sort of conspiracy? I have no clue nor do I really care, the way I see it is that with any sort of policy or organization there are always going to be side effects, some of them can be good and some of them can be very bad. In the case of the healthcare system and large pharmaceutical industries I think like with anything else greed and power got the best of them and that is nothing new or revolutionary unless you just became aware one second ago. Is the ebola virus a fraud? has it been blown out of proportion and used to make some people rich? I don't see why that is such a hard idea to entertain, and it is most likely, judging by the way the media portrays anything has been blown of proportion to scare people. If you control what the people fear you can control everything about them. And the American people are the most terrified people I have ever come across.
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It is a theory, like i said, and until you have done test a refute it you cant really justify saying that it cant be done. Also i never said once that you would use a virus to kill cancer. I said that since a virus is exceptionally well suited for attacking cells and delivering information, you could use that as a mechanism to send the code of apoptosis to a cell that didn't get the message to shut down. Or if that is to complex for you, here is an analogy, if you want to go to the store you cant drive your call into the store but you can drive to the store and then walk in. The car being the virus or whatever you want to call it, you would be pre-programmed cell death and the store would be the cancerous cell. Also where did you hear about cancer being from an oxygen deficiency? The levels of oxygen have been at fluctuating for some time now. There have been dinosaur bones found which had evidence of cancer when oxygen levels where much much higher then they are now. Also how can you explain that plats can get cancer? It has nothing to do with oxygen it has to do with simple mathematics. We have so many cells eventually at some point a mistake will happen during your life cycle and cancer can get formed.
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It is an anti-inflammatory, that's right. Anti- a lot of things honestly.DarwinX wrote:Misty wrote: (Nested quote removed.)
I do agree with a lot of what you try to get across on this issue. I believe big companies create a need for something they want to sell. Just like war is used to boost economics. I also think some conditions are created such as hypertension and meds given when not needed, which turns into one taking many medications as the meds create a need for another medication and before one knows it one is taking several meds to keep high blood pressure under control. It is extremely frustrating. There are so many "conditions" that did not exist when my parents were young. It seems I find few people not on some kind of medication these days. It is insane.
Do you have a source for the $500 per hr pay for the health care workers in Africa?
Hypertension is the result of a bad diet. Too much salt, grain foods and dairy foods which inflame, block and narrow the artery passageways causing high blood pressure, migraine headaches, heart attack and cancer. Doctors know this, but do nothing to either prevent it from occurring or to advise people to change their diets. This is because they don't don't want to contravene the basic 'kill the goose that lays the golden egg' principle. They would rather people either get sick or die than that they would become poorer and have less patients to attend to.
http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2014 ... work-ebola
-- Updated October 17th, 2014, 10:03 am to add the following --
I think Cannabis is an anti-inflammatory chemical which assists the oxygen and iodine to reach the cancer site. Foods like dairy, grain, sugar and salt are blocking agents which prevent oxygen and iodine from reaching the cancer site. Therefore, I would recommend that any person who has cancer to avoid these food sources and eat more fruit, beans and vegetables which have a low glycemic index.Artimas wrote:If it is only iodine and oxygen that treat cancer, then how exactly can Cannabis help with killing cancer cells?
I agree with the monopolization and all, but now I am curious to why Cannabis helps cancer, I don't think it's iodine in it that causes it all.
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Is this also true of hypertension as well, in your opinion? (that when on some medications, it is rare to get off them - does this mean that meds change something that makes it impossible to go off them?) Some skinny people have hypertension - what would be the advise to them?Bohm2 wrote:Sorry, but you have no clue what you're talking about. I deal with people with hypertension and diabetes on a daily basis. Health workers #physicians, dieticians, pharmacists, etc.# almost always recommend changes in diet, fat loss, increased physical activity, lifestyle changes. I make such recommendations on a daily basis and so do all physicians. The problem is individuals rarely follow these recommendations. For the rare ones that do...I've seen diabetic patients who were on 3 different diabetic medications #insulin, metformin and Diamicron# manage to go off pretty well off all of them due to major lifestyle changes, fat loss, more exercise, etc. but unfortunately most people do not make these changes. And once they go on insulin, it's very rare to see them come off and this has nothing to do with lack of trying by health workers.DarwinX wrote:This is because they don't don't want to contravene the basic 'kill the goose that lays the golden egg' principle. They would rather people either get sick or die than that they would become poorer and have less patients to attend to.
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There are multifactorial reasons for someone havig hypertension also. Some people could do everything right (and be thin)and still have hypertension. That's genetics. But lifestyle chanes are recommended for everyone. With a skinny person, if BP is very high, then depending on patient history, medications are usually prescribed. But even the salt-hypertension connection isn't definitive. Only about 25 % are salt-sensitive. And just because one lowers blood pressure by medication, it doesn't always lead to increased longevity. In fact, there is research that suggests that while a high sodium diet is associated with higher average blood pressure, the association with salt (sodium) intake and longevity doesn't follow the same pattern. In fact, there are researchers who question the current guidelines to lower salt (Sodium) intake for everyone:Misty wrote:IIs this also true of hypertension as well, in your opinion? (that when on some medications, it is rare to get off them - does this mean that meds change something that makes it impossible to go off them?) Some skinny people have hypertension - what would be the advise to them?
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/830444
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There are multifactorial reasons for someone havig hypertension also. Some people could do everything right (and be thin)and still have hypertension. That's genetics. But lifestyle chanes are recommended for everyone. With a skinny person, if BP is very high, then depending on patient history, medications are usually prescribed. But even the salt-hypertension connection isn't definitive. Only about 25 % are salt-sensitive. And just because one lowers blood pressure by medication, it doesn't always lead to increased longevity. In fact, there is research that suggests that while a high sodium diet is associated with higher average blood pressure, the association with salt (sodium) intake and longevity doesn't follow the same pattern. In fact, there are researchers who question the current guidelines to lower salt (Sodium) intake for everyone:Misty wrote:IIs this also true of hypertension as well, in your opinion? (that when on some medications, it is rare to get off them - does this mean that meds change something that makes it impossible to go off them?) Some skinny people have hypertension - what would be the advise to them?
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/830444
-- Updated October 17th, 2014, 9:10 am to add the following --
There are multifactorial reasons for someone havig hypertension also. Some people could do everything right (and be thin)and still have hypertension. That's genetics. But lifestyle chanes are recommended for everyone. With a skinny person, if BP is very high, then depending on patient history, medications are usually prescribed. But even the salt-hypertension connection isn't definitive. Only about 25 % are salt-sensitive. And just because one lowers blood pressure by medication, it doesn't always lead to increased longevity. In fact, there is research that suggests that while a high sodium diet is associated with higher average blood pressure, the association with salt (sodium) intake and longevity doesn't follow the same pattern. In fact, there are researchers who question the current guidelines to lower salt (Sodium) intake for everyone:Misty wrote:IIs this also true of hypertension as well, in your opinion? (that when on some medications, it is rare to get off them - does this mean that meds change something that makes it impossible to go off them?) Some skinny people have hypertension - what would be the advise to them?
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/830444
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You don't understand the mechanism by which the immune system operates. You don't need a virus to deliver toxin to the cancer cell. The hormones will do that job just fine. When a cell is oxygen deficient it reverts back to a more primitive state. This is because all life forms are peomorphic to some degree. If the environment doesn't support a cell it can become viral, bacterial or fungal. Halogens are responsible for the breakdown of immune function, these include chlorine, fluorine and bromine. These chemicals can be found in many products and drinking water.Cogito ergo sum wrote: It is a theory, like i said, and until you have done test a refute it you cant really justify saying that it cant be done. Also i never said once that you would use a virus to kill cancer. I said that since a virus is exceptionally well suited for attacking cells and delivering information, you could use that as a mechanism to send the code of apoptosis to a cell that didn't get the message to shut down. Or if that is to complex for you, here is an analogy, if you want to go to the store you can't drive your car into the store but you can drive to the store and then walk in. The car being the virus or whatever you want to call it, you would be pre-programmed cell death and the store would be the cancerous cell. Also where did you hear about cancer being from an oxygen deficiency? The levels of oxygen have been at fluctuating for some time now. There have been dinosaur bones found which had evidence of cancer when oxygen levels where much much higher then they are now. Also how can you explain that plants can get cancer? It has nothing to do with oxygen it has to do with simple mathematics. We have so many cells eventually at some point a mistake will happen during your life cycle and cancer can get formed.
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I wouldn't go even if it was $ 500 /hr. But health workers in those countries doing this hazardous activity isn't close to this:Misty wrote:[Do you have a source for the $500 per hr pay for the health care workers in Africa?
http://www.voanews.com/content/liberian ... 84156.htmlThe workers said they were promised a monthly wage of US $750 for nurses and lab technicians, and US $500 for others, but they have received about one-third less.
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Please enlighten me to your knowledge of the human immune system. It appears you are far more intelligent and knowledgable on this subject then I am. I am having trouble understanding where you are coming from. So according to what you are saying people who live in higher altitudes would have higher cancer rates? Or am I still missing your point? Or what about what you said When a cell is deprived of oxygen it goes back to a primitive state? What is that primitive state? Wouldn't its primitive state be used to an environment that was lacking in oxygen until plants where formed to create more of it? And could you please explain to me how plants can get cancer? And are you saying chlorine, fluorine and bromine are unnatural? Or where they planted by big pharmaceutical companies and governments to make money off of cancer? And what of radiation that is unavoidable or is radiation also created by powers that be? And are you also saying that if you just eat right and avoid any of these halogens that you would never get cancer? Or are you disregarding the fact that mistakes happen and some things are beyond your control? Or is the Human body and immune system the only thing in the universe that we know of that is not suceptable to mathematical probability?DarwinX wrote:You don't understand the mechanism by which the immune system operates. You don't need a virus to deliver toxin to the cancer cell. The hormones will do that job just fine. When a cell is oxygen deficient it reverts back to a more primitive state. This is because all life forms are peomorphic to some degree. If the environment doesn't support a cell it can become viral, bacterial or fungal. Halogens are responsible for the breakdown of immune function, these include chlorine, fluorine and bromine. These chemicals can be found in many products and drinking water.Cogito ergo sum wrote: It is a theory, like i said, and until you have done test a refute it you cant really justify saying that it cant be done. Also i never said once that you would use a virus to kill cancer. I said that since a virus is exceptionally well suited for attacking cells and delivering information, you could use that as a mechanism to send the code of apoptosis to a cell that didn't get the message to shut down. Or if that is to complex for you, here is an analogy, if you want to go to the store you can't drive your car into the store but you can drive to the store and then walk in. The car being the virus or whatever you want to call it, you would be pre-programmed cell death and the store would be the cancerous cell. Also where did you hear about cancer being from an oxygen deficiency? The levels of oxygen have been at fluctuating for some time now. There have been dinosaur bones found which had evidence of cancer when oxygen levels where much much higher then they are now. Also how can you explain that plants can get cancer? It has nothing to do with oxygen it has to do with simple mathematics. We have so many cells eventually at some point a mistake will happen during your life cycle and cancer can get formed.
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People who live have higher rates of red blood cells which is the bodies way of adjusting to low oxygen levels. This means that these people would most likely be more susceptible to heart attack than cancer. The less atmosphere would also expose them to radiation which would increase their skin cancer rates. Heart attack is a common problem for people who are casual mountain climbers and haven't adjusted to the high altitude.Cogito ergo sum wrote:
Please enlighten me to your knowledge of the human immune system. It appears you are far more intelligent and knowledgable on this subject then I am. I am having trouble understanding where you are coming from. So according to what you are saying people who live in higher altitudes would have higher cancer rates?
Cancer cells are primitive cells which are anaerobic.Or am I still missing your point? Or what about what you said When a cell is deprived of oxygen it goes back to a primitive state? What is that primitive state?
Plants don't get cancer.Wouldn't its primitive state be used to an environment that was lacking in oxygen until plants where formed to create more of it? And could you please explain to me how plants can get cancer?
They just used them without knowing what the effects were originally.And are you saying chlorine, fluorine and bromine are unnatural? Or where they planted by big pharmaceutical companies and governments to make money off of cancer?
And what of radiation that is unavoidable or is radiation also created by powers that be? And are you also saying that if you just eat right and avoid any of these halogens that you would never get cancer? Or are you disregarding the fact that mistakes happen and some things are beyond your control? Or is the Human body and immune system the only thing in the universe that we know of that is not suceptable to mathematical probability?[/quote]
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They just used them without knowing what the effects were originally.DarwinX wrote:People who live have higher rates of red blood cells which is the bodies way of adjusting to low oxygen levels. This means that these people would most likely be more susceptible to heart attack than cancer. The less atmosphere would also expose them to radiation which would increase their skin cancer rates. Heart attack is a common problem for people who are casual mountain climbers and haven't adjusted to the high altitude.Cogito ergo sum wrote:
Please enlighten me to your knowledge of the human immune system. It appears you are far more intelligent and knowledgable on this subject then I am. I am having trouble understanding where you are coming from. So according to what you are saying people who live in higher altitudes would have higher cancer rates?
That makes sense. Thank you for that moment of clarity.
Cancer cells are primitive cells which are anaerobic.Or am I still missing your point? Or what about what you said When a cell is deprived of oxygen it goes back to a primitive state? What is that primitive state?
How can a cancerous cell be a primitive version of a cell if it wouldn't exist without a healthy cell. Meaning that, cancer isn't a stand alone cell but a failure of apoptosis that happens In a cell.Plants don't get cancer.Wouldn't its primitive state be used to an environment that was lacking in oxygen until plants where formed to create more of it? And could you please explain to me how plants can get cancer?
But they do get cancer they just have cell walls that don't allow the cancer to spread In the same manner that happens in animals. Unless I am mistaken and if I am please let me know where the fault is in my reasoning. This stems from decissions I have had first hand with a micro biologist who specializes in cancer in plants.
And are you saying chlorine, fluorine and bromine are unnatural? Or where they planted by big pharmaceutical companies and governments to make money off of cancer?
So they do cause cancer even if you were exposed to it naturally and say not consuming it through drinking water where it is placed. So even if like what you said earlier that the immune system doesn't make mistakes, well wouldn't that be a mistake if you stumbled upon in naturally?
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