Most people in the world have been brainwashed by the food manufacturers, medical and education system. When I went to school we were all virtually forced to drink milk every morning by the school authorities. It was considered to be very important that children get indoctrinated that milk was good for them. It has since been found that dairy products are the cause of many modern health problems such as headache, stroke, heart attack, diabetes, cold, flu, arthritis, alzheimer's disease, allergies and kidney failure. I am sorry but it appears that you are beyond help and have been brainwashed and system rectified. There are lots of commonly consumed products which people believe are good for them but are in reality poisonous to humans. You need to read some of the books that I have recommended so that you can become better informed and maybe even more respectful also.Rederic wrote:To have a strong immune system requires a nutritious, well balanced & varied diet. Millions of people in the world have just this, but still succumb to viral infections. You totally ignore the millions of people in the world who catch colds & flu every year & come up with some glib answer like yours. I'm sorry to have to say it, but you're a fool.
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The answer isn't that simple. Let's consider just diabetes. Can you show me studies suggesting that dairy/milk is associated with increased risk of diabetes. Here are studies suggesting the opposite:DarwinX wrote:It has since been found that dairy products are the cause of many modern health problems such as headache, stroke, heart attack, diabetes, cold, flu, arthritis, alzheimer's disease, allergies and kidney failure. I am sorry but it appears that you are beyond help and have been brainwashed and system rectified.
Adolescent dairy product consumption and risk of type 2 diabetes in middle-aged womenOur data suggest that higher dairy product intake during adolescence is associated with a lower risk of T2D. Some of the benefits of dairy product intake during high school may be due to the persistence of the consumption pattern during adulthood.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... 430854.pdf
A prospective study of dairy intake and the risk of type 2 diabetes in women.A dietary pattern that incorporates higher low-fat dairy products may lower the risk of type 2 diabetes in middle-aged or older women
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16801582
A diet high in low-fat dairy products lowers diabetes risk in postmenopausal women.After multivariable adjustment, low-fat dairy product consumption was inversely associated with the risk of type 2 diabetes. RR was roughly 0.5-0.6 in the upper quintiles compared with the lowest quintile (median servings/d, 2.8 in the 5th quintile and 1.5 in the 4th quintile vs. 0.05 in the first quintile; P-trend < 0.001). The inverse relationship was more pronounced in women with a higher BMI. High yogurt consumption was associated with a significant decrease in diabetes risk...A diet high in low-fat dairy products is associated with lower diabetes risk in postmenopausal women, particularly those who are obese.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... 101969.pdf
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The university system isn't about to embarrass the pharmaceutical industry and food industry with inconvenient facts that could cause billions of dollars in lost sales. Of course they will produce confusing sounding studies that prove that milk is beneficial or harmless to humans.Bohm2 wrote: The answer isn't that simple. Let's consider just diabetes. Can you show me studies suggesting that dairy/milk is associated with increased risk of diabetes. Here are studies suggesting the opposite:Our data suggest that higher dairy product intake during adolescence is associated with a lower risk of T2D. Some of the benefits of dairy product intake during high school may be due to the persistence of the consumption pattern during adulthood.
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There's a significant part of the world population that's lactose intolerant, so just on that reason, milk isn't a good food choice for many populations but the balance of studies show a decreased risk of diabetes with increased dairy (especially yogurt) consumption. You have not provided any evidence to the contrary. And I'm making no claims on the overall benefits of dairy (unlike yourself) but just pointing out the evidence. A recent 2013 review of 16 studies reached the same conclusions:DarwinX wrote:The university system isn't about to embarrass the pharmaceutical industry and food industry with inconvenient facts that could cause billions of dollars in lost sales. Of course they will produce confusing sounding studies that prove that milk is beneficial or harmless to humans...
Dairy Products Consumption and Risk of Type 2 Diabetes: Systematic Review and Dose-Response Meta-Analysis
http://www.plosone.org/article/fetchObj ... tation=PDF
You can't just keep making up stuff and relying on links to questionable, biased videos/sites. If there is some collusion between university (nutrition sciences) and dairy industry, why isn't it the case that there are similar collusions between university and meat, fish/sea food and sugared-beverage industries, where there are studies showing increased risk of diabetes (look at figure 3):
Prevention and management of type 2 diabetes: dietary components and nutritional strategies
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/wp-content/ ... abetes.pdf
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Bohm2 wrote: There's a significant part of the world population that's lactose intolerant, so just on that reason, milk isn't a good food choice for many populations but the balance of studies show a decreased risk of diabetes with increased dairy (especially yogurt) consumption. You have not provided any evidence to the contrary. And I'm making no claims on the overall benefits of dairy (unlike yourself) but just pointing out the evidence. A recent 2013 review of 16 studies reached the same conclusions:
Dairy Products Consumption and Risk of Type 2 Diabetes: Systematic Review and Dose-Response Meta-Analysis
http://www.plosone.org/article/fetchObj ... tation=PDF
You can't just keep making up stuff and relying on links to questionable, biased videos/sites. If there is some collusion between university (nutrition sciences) and dairy industry, why isn't it the case that there are similar collusions between university and meat, fish/sea food and sugared-beverage industries, where there are studies showing increased risk of diabetes (look at figure 3):
Prevention and management of type 2 diabetes: dietary components and nutritional strategies
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/wp-content/ ... abetes.pdf
The reality is that milk is a glue and if you put glue into a machine, then you get malfunctions occurring all over the place.
Many disagree about milk’s being healthy. Dr. Mark Hyman, author of The Blood Sugar Solution, wrote,
I typically advise most of my patients to avoid dairy products completely… From an evolutionary point of view, milk is a strange food for humans. Until 10,000 years ago we didn’t domesticate animals and weren’t able to drink milk… The majority of humans naturally stop producing significant amounts of lactase — the enzyme needed to [deal with] lactose, the sugar in milk — sometime between the ages of two and five.
OK. So some experts disagree with the government. But we have to start at the beginning. What is milk anyway?
What Milk Is Made Of Milk is food produced by mammal mothers to feed their young. Mammal milks are all similar, but they have important differences in the specific proteins. It may be that cow’s milk is not a good match for most human populations.
Milk has significant amounts of fat, protein, and carbohydrate in one package. Normal cow’s milk contains 30–35 grams of protein per liter, mostly in the form of casein. It also contains dozens of other proteins in small amounts, various minerals, and vitamins A, B complex, C, D, K, and E.
What could be wrong with that? Let’s look a little more closely.
Milk Protein Linked to Type 1 Diabetes? There are four different types of casein proteins, called alpha-S1, alpha-S2, beta, and kappa caseins. Other milk proteins are called “whey” proteins.
A variant of beta-casein known as A1 beta-casein has been implicated in causing Type 1 diabetes. In genetically vulnerable children, A1 beta-casein may set off an immune response that later turns against the beta cells in the pancreas.
Children who drink cow milk have been found more likely to develop Type 1 later on. Other scientists say this evidence is weak and the studies were flawed. I think children should be kept off cow’s milk formulas at least until their first birthday.
Milk Fat The National Institute of Diabetes and Digestive and Kidney Diseases (NIDDK) defines a serving of dairy as 8 ounces of nonfat or low-fat milk or yogurt.
This low-fat advice appears unsupported by science. Most of the good stuff in milk is in the fats. According to Wikipedia, “the fat-soluble vitamins A, D, E, and K along with essential fatty acids such as linoleic and linolenic acid are found within the milk fat portion of milk.”
Some evidence supports milk fat as being protective against Type 2 diabetes. A study published in the December 2010 issue of Annals of Internal Medicine followed 3,736 men for 10 years and found that those who had the highest blood levels of a type of fatty acid from whole-fat (not nonfat) dairy foods had 60% less chance of developing Type 2 diabetes than men with the lowest levels.
As one of the authors commented, “This is an extremely strong protective effect, stronger than other things we know can be beneficial against diabetes.”
Several other studies have demonstrated that dairy consumption lowers risk for insulin resistance, metabolic syndrome, or diabetes. Researchers credit a fatty acid found in dairy products, trans-palmitoleic acid as the possible protective compound.
In various studies, higher levels of trans-palmitoleic acid were associated with numerous desirable outcomes: lower body-mass index, smaller waist circumference, lower triglyceride levels, lower levels of C-reactive protein (a marker of inflammation), lower fasting insulin levels, and less insulin resistance.
Milk Sugars Milk sugar is called lactose. Lactose gives milk its sweet taste and contributes approximately 40% of whole cow’s milk’s calories.
Lactose can definitely raise your blood glucose. An enzyme called lactase splits it up into glucose and galactose. Because this split takes time, some nutritionists say lactose converts to blood glucose relatively slowly (that is to say, it has a low glycemic index or GI).
But others say that dairy may have a low GI but stimulates insulin as if it had a high GI. Loren Cordain, PhD, of Colorado State Department of Health and Exercise Science, believes this may be due to the combination of lactose and some of the amino acids in whey proteins.
Cordain, author of The Paleo Answer, says the insulin response to milk is “extreme,” and advises people concerned about diabetes to avoid milk products.
It’s hard to reconcile the supposedly healthful affects of dairy fat with the supposedly harmful effects of dairy sugar. Should we drink it or not?
Different Kinds of Milk There are other milks besides human and cow. Goat milk is gaining popularity. Camel milk is said by many to be extremely nutritious. It’s now for sale in the US. Vegan milks include soy milk, rice milk, and almond milk.
You might consider buying either free-range, grass-fed organic milk or using a vegan alternative. According to Discovery Health, milk cows are given hormones to increase their milk production and antibiotics to decrease infections. Neither of these is good to eat.
Lactose Intolerance People who don’t have sufficient lactase to digest lactose will be “lactose intolerant,” and may suffer diarrhea, intestinal gas, cramps, and bloating from drinking milk.
It is estimated that 30 to 50 million Americans are lactose intolerant, including up to 75% of Native Americans and African-Americans, and 90% of Asian Americans.
Lactose-free or reduced lactose milk is available. It has been treated with lactase to break lactose down, so it doesn’t cause abdominal problems. It is sweeter than regular milk and has a higher glycemic index.
http://www.diabetesandenvironment.org/h ... heat-dairy
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DarwinX, with the exception of your statement above, the article you presented is pretty much true with the exception that what you presented does not support to avoid dairy altogether, in that it states that some people have a problem with dairy and should avoid it, which is true, but what it does not go into is the fact that milk products have changed over the years in that they have been pasteurized at higher temperatures which kills all the good stuff in the milk, but this was primarily done for longer shelf life. When I was a kid and bought milk at the local milk store, it would only stay fresh for about four to five days before it would start to sour, and start to curdle, where now you can buy milk and it stays in the frig for about 2 weeks, or so where you can even see that the expiration dates are about two weeks in the future. Eggs are the same in that in the old days they would start to go bad in about a week even if you kept them in the frig. So, over all the good stuff in these products have been killed out of the products.DarwinX wrote: The reality is that milk is a glue and if you put glue into a machine, then you get malfunctions occurring all over the place.
Now for those who use cow's milk substitutes where most all of those listed in your presentation are just fin except for soy milk, and for that matter all soy products should be avoided where possible. The Soy plant is actually poisonous and even animals will not eat it, but the soy bean must be processed before it can be consumed and this process varies where some are better than others and less damaging. The only benefit of soy is that it will grow almost anywhere, therefore making it a very affordable plant and will sustain many soul types, thereby making it a cash crop but still if it is not processed properly can make you very sick. Yet it is a very profitable crop and does have the same future properties as would Soylent Green.
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MidiChlorian wrote: DarwinX, with the exception of your statement above, the article you presented is pretty much true with the exception that what you presented does not support to avoid dairy altogether, in that it states that some people have a problem with dairy and should avoid it, which is true, but what it does not go into is the fact that milk products have changed over the years in that they have been pasteurized at higher temperatures which kills all the good stuff in the milk, but this was primarily done for longer shelf life. When I was a kid and bought milk at the local milk store, it would only stay fresh for about four to five days before it would start to sour, and start to curdle, where now you can buy milk and it stays in the frig for about 2 weeks, or so where you can even see that the expiration dates are about two weeks in the future. Eggs are the same in that in the old days they would start to go bad in about a week even if you kept them in the frig. So, over all the good stuff in these products have been killed out of the products.
Now for those who use cow's milk substitutes where most all of those listed in your presentation are just fin except for soy milk, and for that matter all soy products should be avoided where possible. The Soy plant is actually poisonous and even animals will not eat it, but the soy bean must be processed before it can be consumed and this process varies where some are better than others and less damaging. The only benefit of soy is that it will grow almost anywhere, therefore making it a very affordable plant and will sustain many soul types, thereby making it a cash crop but still if it is not processed properly can make you very sick. Yet it is a very profitable crop and does have the same future properties as would Soylent Green.
Yes... milk is Mother Nature's "perfect food" ...for a calf... until it is weaned.
Everything you know about cow's milk and dairy is probably part of a Dairy industry MYTH.
Cow's milk is an unhealthy fluid from diseased animals that contains a wide range of dangerous and disease-causing substances that have a cumulative negative effect on all who consume it.
MILK'S BASIC CONTENTS
*ALL* cow's milk (regular and 'organic') has 59 active hormones, scores of allergens, fat and cholesterol. Most cow's milk has measurable quantities of herbicides, pesticides, dioxins (up to 200 times the safe levels), up to 52 powerful antibiotics (perhaps 53, with LS-50), blood, pus, feces, bacteria and viruses. (Cow's milk can have traces of anything the cow ate... including such things as radioactive fallout from nuke testing ... (the 50's strontium-90 problem).
LEADING CAUSES OF DEATH IN AMERICA
http://webapp.cdc.gov/sasweb/ncipc/leadcaus.html (1998) Rank Total Description
1 724,859 Heart Disease (think fats/cholesterol: meat/dairy) 2 541,532 Malignant Neoplasms (cancer: think toxins/milk/dairy) 2a 250,000 Medical system (drugs/etc. think ignorance/incompetence) 3 158,448 Cerebro-vascular (think meat milk and dairy) 4 112,584 Bronchitis Emphysema Asthma (think toxins/milk/dairy) 5 97,835 Unintentional Injuries and Adverse Effects 6 91,871 Pneumonia & Influenza (think weak immune systems and mucus) 7 64,751 Diabetes (think milk/dairy) 7a 40,000+ Highway slaughter (men, women and children) 8 30,575 Suicide (think behavioral problems) 9 26,182 Nephritis (Bright's disease: inflammation of the kidneys) 10 25,192 Liver Disease (think alcohol and other toxins) (2a and 7a were added for completeness) (note: Number 13 on the CDC list is -18,272 Homicide & Legal Intervention-. It is curious that the CDC would readily list law enforcement and homicides... and not the 250,000 deaths caused by the medical system!)
CANCER FUEL
Of those 59 hormones one is a powerful GROWTH hormone called Insulin- like Growth Factor ONE (IGF-1). By a freak of nature it is identical in cows and humans. Consider this hormone to be a "fuel cell" for any cancer... (the medical world says IGF-1 is a key factor in the rapid growth and proliferation of breast, prostate and colon cancers, and we suspect that most likely it will be found to promote ALL cancers). IGF-1 is a normal part of ALL milk... the newborn is SUPPOSED to grow quickly! What makes the 50% of obese American consumers think they need MORE growth? Consumers don't think anything about it because they do not have a clue to the problem... nor do most of our doctors. (See http://www.notmilk.com/igf1time.txt for a time line)
QUANTITY
Each bite of hard cheese has TEN TIMES whatever was in that sip of milk... because it takes ten pounds of milk to make one pound of cheese. Each bite of ice cream has 12 times ... and every swipe of butter 21 times whatever is contained in the fat molecules in a sip of milk.
MONSANTO AND rbGH (Posilac)
Monsanto Chemical Co., maker of fine poisons such as DDT, agent orange, Roundup and more... spent around half a billion dollars inventing a shot to inject into cows... to force a cow to produce MORE milk (for an already glutted taxpayer subsidized market). Unfortunately, they created *FIVE* errors in their Frankenstein Posilac (rbGH) shot that direly affected all test animals... but that important report (Richard, Odaglia & Deslex, 1989) has been hidden from everyone under Clinton's Trade Secrets act. The Canadians read enough of this report (before it was stolen) to reject rbGH for their country. Monsanto's Posilac creates additional IGF-1 in milk: up to 80% more. The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) insists that IGF-1 is destroyed in the stomach. If that were true, the FDA has proven that breast feeding cannot work. Common sense says their "finding" is ridiculous because this growth factor DOES make the baby calf grow (rapidly, as mother natured intended). Visit the Dairy Education Board at http://www.notmilk.com/deb/100399.html to review a DAIRY study that confirms what the FDA has lied about this for years.
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It is at its worst when it deludes us into thinking we have all the answers for everybody else.
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Can you prove otherwise?Rederic wrote:I see that now, in this year alone, 5000 people have died from eating bats!
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You're the one making the assertion that people eating dead bats is the cause of Ebola. It's up to you to provide incontravertable evidence that this is so. I don't mean dodgy websites or theories that you'plucked out of the air either. I mean proper peer reviewed studies that prove your assertions. I'll await your evasions & diversions, but I won't hold my breath!DarwinX wrote:Can you prove otherwise?Rederic wrote:I see that now, in this year alone, 5000 people have died from eating bats!
It is at its worst when it deludes us into thinking we have all the answers for everybody else.
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I have come to these conclusions by using a little known commodity known as commonsense, which is a rarely used item in the world of academia because commonsense often contradicts century old stigmas which have pervaded the scientific community.Rederic wrote:You're the one making the assertion that people eating dead bats is the cause of Ebola. It's up to you to provide incontravertable evidence that this is so. I don't mean dodgy websites or theories that you'plucked out of the air either. I mean proper peer reviewed studies that prove your assertions. I'll await your evasions & diversions, but I won't hold my breath!DarwinX wrote: (Nested quote removed.)
Can you prove otherwise?
Why don't you watch the Robert Distinti video series and you will see that hundreds of commonly held beliefs and theories are completely wrong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v I am sure that you don't even know what the peer review system is or what it represents, so why do you insist on having a peer reviewed article?
DarwinX Definition of peer review system -
The interposition of editors and reviewers between authors and readers may enable the intermediators to act as gatekeepers. Some sociologists of science argue that peer review makes the ability to publish susceptible to control by elites and to personal jealousy. The peer review process may suppress dissent against "mainstream" theories. Reviewers tend to be especially critical of conclusions that contradict their own views, and lenient towards those that match them. At the same time, established scientists are more likely than others to be sought out as referees, particularly by high-prestige journals/publishers. As a result, ideas that harmonize with the established experts' are more likely to see print and to appear in premier journals than are iconoclastic or revolutionary ones. This accords with Thomas Kuhn's well-known observations regarding scientific revolutions. A theoretical model has been established whose simulations imply that peer review and over-competitive research funding foster mainstream opinion to monopoly. A marketing professor argued that invited papers are more valuable because papers that undergo the conventional system of peer review may not necessarily feature findings that are actually important.
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It is at its worst when it deludes us into thinking we have all the answers for everybody else.
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No answer, as usual!Rederic wrote:I thought so.
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Another 400 people have died from eating bats, some of them doctors & nurses. You'd have thought by now that someone would have told them "don't eat the bats"!DarwinX wrote:No answer, as usual!Rederic wrote:I thought so.
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