Are we still in the dark ages of medical science?

[DarwinX]

Has medicine advanced? Are we still using out-dated theories such as Germ Theory which have been erroneously accepted for the last two hundred years without question? Does vaccination do anything to improve your chances of survival? What other medical mistakes have been made in the last 200 years and are still practised to this very day?

[Eckhart Aurelius Hughes]

Are we still using out-dated theories such as [...] What other medical mistakes [...]

Those are blatant loaded question fallacies. Thus, they are extremely unphilosophical questions. The use of such questions is very poor philosophy.

[Harbal]

Has medicine advanced?

Obviously, medicine has advanced a great deal so what are you getting at?

[DarwinX]

Has medicine advanced?

Obviously, medicine has advanced a great deal so what are you getting at?

If you have watched some episodes of Horrible Histories, you may know that all the nasty aspects of history have been deleted from your school and university curriculum. Why is it that historians and ruling class authorities need to cleanse history for us to make it appear squeaky clean and inoffensive? What are they trying to protect us from? Is the true nature of human behaviour so disgusting that is has to be censored and monitored for the consumption of us new age sensitive humans?

Medical history is no different to political history. It has the same disgusting past and is full of similar mistakes and is mostly politically and profit motivated. Germ Theory is one of those big mistakes that was made 200 years ago that has somehow persisted to this very day. It has survived because it has generated huge profits and allows the creation of a power base for medical science to flourish. But, alas, this expansion has been erroneously developed to the detriment of human kind. This theory has allowed manufacturers of food and chemicals to literally get away with murder and mass death on an industrial scale for the last 200 years. Under the protection of Germ Theory large proportions of our population can be poisoned with dangerous chemicals and when they get sick - it can all be blamed on those nasty germs as being the obvious culprits. Thus, no investigation is necessary, because everybody knows that germs kill large numbers of people in a random places and times, right? This was demonstrated recently with the so called 'Ebola outbreak' in Africa. Nobody ever considers that pesticide or chemicals may be the cause of this disease. Its always the fleas, rats and bats that are to blame for the disease. Its never the chemicals that fleas, rats and bats are exposed to that might be the cause. In the case of Ebola, the symptoms clearly are similar to insecticide poisoning and the bats are said to be the carriers of the disease. Note - Bats eat insects and nectar which are heavily sprayed with insecticide in Africa. Africans eat sick and diseased bats and then get sick or die depending on the dosage of insecticide.

[DarwinX]

Are we still using out-dated theories such as [...] What other medical mistakes [...]

Those are blatant loaded question fallacies. Thus, they are extremely unphilosophical questions. The use of such questions is very poor philosophy.

One's person'al opinion doesn't equate a philosophical victory. If you think my concepts are faulty you will have to use logic and evidence to prove that my ideas are faulty. Note - There are 1,000's of naturopathic doctors all over the world who would vouch for the verity of my statements. The Vaccination Liberation website has miles of evidence in my favour. The mainstream medical system shuns the use of long term graphs to show mortality rate declines in reference to vaccination use because they know the evidence is clearly not in their favour.

[Harbal]

I have never seen horrible histories but how do you know you can believe these people?

[Sy Borg]

I've heard said that future generations may consider the use of antibiotics to be a barbaric approach due to the damage it inflicts on our microbiome.

However, antibiotics would have saved one of my grandfathers, who died of pneumonia at age thirty-four. Further, if you have ever suffered a severe urinary tract infection, you will take antibiotics until a better cure comes along. Apart from the agony, life threatening kidney damage can occur without treatment.

The OP is overly black and white in approach.

[Harbal]

There are 1,000's of naturopathic doctors all over the world who would vouch for the verity of my statements.

As opposed to how many who would refute them?

[DarwinX]

I've heard said that future generations may consider the use of antibiotics to be a barbaric approach due to the damage it inflicts on our microbiome.

However, antibiotics would have saved one of my grandfathers, who died of pneumonia at age thirty-four. Further, if you have ever suffered a severe urinary tract infection, you will take antibiotics until a better cure comes along. Apart from the agony, life threatening kidney damage can occur without treatment.

The OP is overly black and white in approach.

Pneumonia is a non-existent disease, as is whooping cough, bronchitis, influenza and the common cold. These conditions are just a product of a poor diet which lacks vitamins. Consumption of dairy, grain and sugar products cause inflammation and swelling in the throat, nose and lungs. The human immune system is an iodine based system which is sensitive to halogen chemicals which cause disruption and dysfunction. The human body generates its own disease as a means of cleansing the body when iodine isn't available. Adding antibiotics only gives temporary relief but doesn't address the cause of the problem which is an improper diet. Urinary tract infection is just a blockage caused by dairy, grain and sugar products. Note - Dairy,grain and sugar are very sticky glue-like substances which cause blockages to occur. By avoiding dairy, grain and sugar products you can avoid most disease, heart attack, stroke, arthritis, colds, headaches and many other disorders.

[Eckhart Aurelius Hughes]

Take note of the complete lack of sources or evidence given in the previous post to support the claims made in the preceding post. It's just ipse dixit.

[Sy Borg]

Darwin, yes, chemicals cause disease. Bacteria (and other life) consist of, consume and excrete chemicals, some of which are toxic to humans by shutting down organ functions. Holistic health helps but it's no guarantee that a bug won't manage to invade your immune system at some time.

[Steve3007]

Scott:

Take note of the complete lack of sources or evidence given in the previous post to support the claims made in the preceding post. It's just ipse dixit.

That's true in the context of this single topic, but given that he has covered essentially the same subject several times before in previous topics, DarwinX could claim that he has provided links to what he regards as reliable sources before and that he leaves them out here, until they are specifically requested, for the sake of brevity.

The validity of this defence then depends on the interpretation of forum rules and guidelines. It could be argued that the defence is inadmissible because, in using it, he would have to implicitly admit that he hasn't followed the guideline which requires the creator of new topics to check whether the topic has not been covered in the same way previously.

[DarwinX]

Take note of the complete lack of sources or evidence given in the previous post to support the claims made in the preceding post. It's just ipse dixit.

There are thousands of books an naturopathic medicine. All of them would support my statements. The basic difference is that standard AMA medicine sees the body as a faulty system which they can improve on. Whereas, naturopathic medicine sees the body as all wise and capable of healing itself given sufficient nutrition and vitamins.

Some sources may include - Rethinking Pasteur's Germ Theory by Nancy Appleton Bird Flu - It's not what you think by Dr Sherri J. Tenpenny

[DarwinX]

Darwin, yes, chemicals cause disease. Bacteria (and other life) consist of, consume and excrete chemicals, some of which are toxic to humans by shutting down organ functions. Holistic health helps but it's no guarantee that a bug won't manage to invade your immune system at some time.

Germ theory is basically incorrect in assuming that a virus comes from an external source and is not generated internally by the host. "Germs are the result of a disease and are not the cause of a disease". - Antoine Bechamp

[Eckhart Aurelius Hughes]

Take note of the complete lack of sources or evidence given in the previous post to support the claims made in the preceding post. It's just ipse dixit.

There are thousands of books an naturopathic medicine. All of them would support my statements.

So you say, yet the quoted post lacked a single source, and thus holds absolutely no weight. If this is all that there is to put forth to support your claims, then the reasonable conclusion is to disbelieve your claims as a result of lack of evidence.

Saying something is true is different than providing argument or evidence that it is true. Saying there is evidence is different than presenting it. You have provided no argument and no evidence to believe your assertions. That offers us nothing but ipse dixit.