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Does Special Relativity contain contradictions?

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Re: Does Special Relativity contain contradictions?

Post by Steve3007 » September 12th, 2019, 7:53 am

gater wrote:The Special relativity theory is wrong - Gravity has no effect on time...
The Special Theory of Relativity is not about gravity. That would be the General Theory of Relativity.

The usual way to challenge or supersede an existing theory is to find an example of an observation which is incorrectly predicted by that theory and then to create a new theory which correctly predicts all of the observations that were correctly predicted by the old theory but which also correctly predicts the observation that was not. In other words, in areas where the old theory was empirically successful, the new theory must also be at least as successful, but it must add to that success with other successes.
...time is a constant, there was no beginning of time. Many confused Time Dilation with Time - Time Dilation is the effect gravity has on matter, not on time.
Can you translate this into a statement about something that can be empirically observed and which differs in some way to the empirical predictions of Special or General Relativity?
LuckyR wrote:your opinion on the speed of time is... unpopular.
I wouldn't have emphasised the lack of popularity. I'd have said that the opinions expressed about time do not yet appear to translate, in any obvious way, into empirically testable propositions.

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Re: Does Special Relativity contain contradictions?

Post by LuckyR » September 12th, 2019, 3:52 pm

Steve3007 wrote:
September 12th, 2019, 7:53 am
LuckyR wrote:your opinion on the speed of time is... unpopular.
I wouldn't have emphasised the lack of popularity. I'd have said that the opinions expressed about time do not yet appear to translate, in any obvious way, into empirically testable propositions.
Simple concepts for simple minds...
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Re: Does Special Relativity contain contradictions?

Post by Cvda » November 6th, 2019, 4:33 pm

Special relativity is based on the supposition of the general theory - which has many more contradictions.
Equally likely is that when examined special relativity might be one of the more closed and specific beliefs we rely on.

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Re: Does Special Relativity contain contradictions?

Post by Steve3007 » Yesterday, 10:27 am

Cvda wrote:Special relativity is based on the supposition of the general theory...
What do you mean by the term "...is based on the supposition of..."?

The Special Theory came 10 years before the General Theory. It considers the special case (hence the name) of inertial reference frames in which the effects of gravity and acceleration can be neglected.
...which has many more contradictions.
Could you provide an example of one for discussion.

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