gater wrote: ↑January 3rd, 2020, 9:23 pm
I did speak the truth - its not my truth - its a Universal truth.
So, from your perspective, 'you', "gator", out of everyone in the Universe, KNOWS the Universal truth, correct?
gater wrote: ↑January 3rd, 2020, 9:23 pmSpace - the true meaning of space is the absence of matter that continues forever. - True statement.
Are you aware that there are particles of matter, and objects made of matter, in the Universe?
If not, then those objects that can be observed and experienced are made of matter. 'Matter' co-exists with 'space', which I agree is the absence of matter, but BOTH form the whole Universe. BOTH space AND matter are what the Universe is comprised of. Therefore, one of them cannot logically continue forever, as you so believe one of them does.
If, as you propose, 'space', which is the absence of matter, continues forever, is a True statement, then how do you explain away those particles and objects of matter in the Universe, which obviously must even exist, to you?
Contrary to your belief, space does NOT continue forever because it is interrupted by matter, in places.
Obviously the Universe continues forever, but just as obvious is an absence of matter cannot continue forever, literally, because there IS matter.
gater wrote: ↑January 3rd, 2020, 9:23 pmTime is absolutely a constant - there was no beginning of time, it doesn't slow or stop, it continues at the same rate everywhere in the Universe, and it always has, and always will - that is the true nature of time.
But 'time' is NOT an actual physical thing. So, there is NO 'rate' to time. Therefore, 'time' cannot continue at the same rate everywhere in the Universe.
Unless of course you can be the first human being to actual prove how 'time' exists physically.
Will you be the first human being to be able to explain what 'time' IS, in the physical sense?
If you do, then you might also be able to show how there is an actual rate of change of 'time', itself. But until it can be shown and proven that 'time' is some actual physical thing, then how could it even be explained that 'time' has any rate of change, which could either remain the same, or accelerates or decelerates depending on the speed at which an object is moving.
gater wrote: ↑January 3rd, 2020, 9:23 pmif I contend 2 plus 2 is 4 - that's a true statement - its not my truth - im just identifying it as true.
Maybe so, and what is also a True statement is maths, or 2 plus 2 is 4, is NOT what is in discussion here. Mathematical equations do not have much to do with the size of space, nor if 'time' is an actual physical thing or not, which is what we were just discussing.
Bringing in an actual True statement, and then inferring because I just said this one, then that means my other statements are True ones also, is beyond absurd, and stupid, to me.
If you want to show that your other (said "True") statements are in fact True statements, then you just have to prove this, and not just say they are.
gater wrote: ↑January 3rd, 2020, 9:23 pmThe same with time and space, I told you the truth - its not my truth, it not my opinion.
LOL Okay.
So, the one known as "gator" has and knows the Universal Truth of things, but, unfortunately, and also coincidentally, is not able to back this up with any actual True empirical evidence nor proof, nor with any actual logical and reasonable explanations, nor, with even any sound nor valid arguments.
But, as can be observed, "gator" has BELIEF, which, to them, is obviously is all that is needed, as well as being irrefutable, itself, that belief is all that is appeared to be needed to KNOW the Truth of things.