The Philosophy of Space Exploration and Colonization
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Hawking and Milner’s idea to use phased lasers to accelerate nano probes (with photo camera equipment) to over 20% c would enable to reach those stars in 1 year time. Further, communication between the probes at the distance of the stars and Earth would have a delay of about 60 days.
A recent study, without naming Tired Light, indicates that the theory might be applicable.
Observations of distant galaxies provide stunning new evidence that the Universe is not expanding
Oxford University societies hosted two presentations by LPPFusion President and Chief Scientist Eric Lerner in May. The Oxford University Space and Astronomy Society also invited Lerner to speak about his and his colleagues’ new paper on the non-expansion of the universe.
In a startling challenge to the widely-popular Big Bang theory, new evidence, published online May 2 in the International Journal of Modern Physics, D, (and posted to Arxiv) indicates that the universe is not expanding after all. The evidence, based on detailed measurements of the size and brightness of hundreds of galaxies, adds to a growing list of observations that contradict the predictions of the increasingly complex Big Bang model.
Therefore if the universe is not expanding, the redshift of light with increasing distance must be caused by some other phenomena-something that happens to the light itself as it travels through space. "We are not speculating now as to what could cause the redshift of light," explains Lerner.
https://www.worldscientific.com/doi/abs ... 1814500588
Other references:
(2016) FRB 150418 Confirms Predictions Made by New Tired Light
https://vixra.org/abs/1610.0380
Tired Light Denies the Big Bang
More and more problems related to Big Bang have been appeared in recent years. All the problems are due to the Doppler interpretation of redshift.
https://www.intechopen.com/chapters/64538
Tired Light refutes the big bang theory
https://tiredlight.net/
New Tired Light Theory
http://tiredlight.org/
New Tired-Light Theory Explains Redshift and CMB in an Infinite Universe
http://www.noeticadvancedstudies.us/Ashmore.pdf
Boriev, I. A. (Russian Academy of Sciences) mentioned the following in Journal of Physics in 2018:
"Such red shift (and reduction of energy) may be simply explained by natural dissipation of energy of electromagnetic waves while they are propagating through the filled by DM space, which is real material medium. As clear, such dissipation must increase with increasing space distance, what logically explains the observed red shift increase with space distance. This materialistic explanation of observed red shift, known as concept of tired light, is natural and evidently true since it eliminates both obviously mysterious ideas about Universe inflation, induced by physically queer assumption of Big Bang, and about physically unexplained reason of dark energy."
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The Tired Light theory was disproved more than 20 years ago. From Science.org:psyreporter wrote: ↑June 19th, 2022, 1:29 pm When New Tired Light Theory to explain redshift is valid, the distance to other stars might be much smaller. With a 20x reduced distance, the stars Alpha Centauri A and B have a distance of 0.212 light years.
Hawking and Milner’s idea to use phased lasers to accelerate nano probes (with photo camera equipment) to over 20% c would enable to reach those stars in 1 year time. Further, communication between the probes at the distance of the stars and Earth would have a delay of about 60 days.
A recent study, without naming Tired Light, indicates that the theory might be applicable.
Observations of distant galaxies provide stunning new evidence that the Universe is not expanding
Oxford University societies hosted two presentations by LPPFusion President and Chief Scientist Eric Lerner in May. The Oxford University Space and Astronomy Society also invited Lerner to speak about his and his colleagues’ new paper on the non-expansion of the universe.
In a startling challenge to the widely-popular Big Bang theory, new evidence, published online May 2 in the International Journal of Modern Physics, D, (and posted to Arxiv) indicates that the universe is not expanding after all. The evidence, based on detailed measurements of the size and brightness of hundreds of galaxies, adds to a growing list of observations that contradict the predictions of the increasingly complex Big Bang model.
Therefore if the universe is not expanding, the redshift of light with increasing distance must be caused by some other phenomena-something that happens to the light itself as it travels through space. "We are not speculating now as to what could cause the redshift of light," explains Lerner.
https://www.worldscientific.com/doi/abs ... 1814500588
Other references:
(2016) FRB 150418 Confirms Predictions Made by New Tired Light
https://vixra.org/abs/1610.0380
Tired Light Denies the Big Bang
More and more problems related to Big Bang have been appeared in recent years. All the problems are due to the Doppler interpretation of redshift.
https://www.intechopen.com/chapters/64538
Tired Light refutes the big bang theory
https://tiredlight.net/
New Tired Light Theory
http://tiredlight.org/
New Tired-Light Theory Explains Redshift and CMB in an Infinite Universe
http://www.noeticadvancedstudies.us/Ashmore.pdf
Boriev, I. A. (Russian Academy of Sciences) mentioned the following in Journal of Physics in 2018:
"Such red shift (and reduction of energy) may be simply explained by natural dissipation of energy of electromagnetic waves while they are propagating through the filled by DM space, which is real material medium. As clear, such dissipation must increase with increasing space distance, what logically explains the observed red shift increase with space distance. This materialistic explanation of observed red shift, known as concept of tired light, is natural and evidently true since it eliminates both obviously mysterious ideas about Universe inflation, induced by physically queer assumption of Big Bang, and about physically unexplained reason of dark energy."
The "tired light" hypothesis, mainstay of a dwindling band of contrarians who deny the big bang and its corollary, the expanding universe, has suffered a one-two punch. Observations of supernovae and of galaxies provide the best direct evidence that the universe is truly expanding.
It's a conclusion that most astronomers reached long ago. In 1929, Edwin Hubble announced that light from distant galaxies is redder than light from nearby ones. Hubble and others took the redshifts as evidence that the universe is expanding, causing distant galaxies to speed away faster than nearby ones. However, an alternative explanation, the "tired-light" hypothesis, claimed that galaxies' light reddens because it loses energy as it passes through space. In this scenario, distant galaxies are red not because they are moving, but because their light has traveled farther and gotten pooped along the way. Measurements of the cosmic microwave background put the theory firmly on the fringe of physics 30 years ago; still, scientists sought more direct proofs of the expansion of the cosmos.
Two new papers provide the best direct evidence yet. The first, slated to appear in Astrophysical Journal, measures the brightening and dimming of a certain type of supernova. Thanks to Einstein's theory of relativity, if distant supernovae are speeding away from us, they will appear to flare and fade at a more leisurely pace than close-by ones. A team of scientists led by Gerson Goldhaber of the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory in Berkeley, California, has shown that this is, indeed, the case with 42 recently analyzed supernovae.
In the second study, Allan Sandage, an astrophysicist at the Carnegie Observatories in Pasadena, California, and Lori Lubin of Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore analyzed space-based measurements of the surface brightness of galaxies. Both the standard expanding-universe and the tired-light theory, they realized, agree that redshifted light should make distant galaxies look dimmer than they really are. In an expanding universe, however, time dilation and other relativistic distortions will also dim distant galaxies, making them appear much fainter than tired-light theory dictates. What's more, young stars--and thus young galaxies--tend to be considerably brighter than old ones. When that extra brightness is taken into account, the observations match expanding-universe predictions, as Lubin and Sandage will report in Astronomical Journal. For the tired-light theory to be correct, young galaxies would have to be dimmer, rather than brighter, than old ones. "The expansion is real. It's not due to an unknown physical process. That is the conclusion," says Sandage.
Although not surprising in themselves, the results are useful for "tidying things up in our cosmology," says Michael Pahre, an astronomer at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics in Cambridge, Massachusetts. Even so, "I don't think it's possible to convince people who are holding on to tired light," says Ned Wright, an astrophysicist at the University of California, Los Angeles. "I would say it is more a problem for a psychological journal than for Science."
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How about this:
How the Universe Got Its Bounce Back
"Cosmologists have shown that it’s theoretically possible for a contracting universe to bounce and expand. The new work resuscitates an old idea that directly challenges the Big Bang theory of cosmic origins."
https://www.quantamagazine.org/big-boun ... -20180131/.........With a single initial ingredient (the “inflaton field”), inflationary models reproduce many broad-brush features of the cosmos today. But as an origin story, inflation is lacking; it raises questions about what preceded it and where that initial, inflaton-laden speck came from. Undeterred, many theorists think the inflaton field must fit naturally into a more complete, though still unknown, theory of time’s origin.
But in the past few years, a growing number of cosmologists have cautiously revisited the alternative. They say the Big Bang might instead have been a Big Bounce. Some cosmologists favor a picture in which the universe expands and contracts cyclically like a lung, bouncing each time it shrinks to a certain size, while others propose that the cosmos only bounced once — that it had been contracting, before the bounce, since the infinite past, and that it will expand forever after. In either model, time continues into the past and future without end......
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Discussed: What If We Became a Type II Civilization? - with Michio Kaku | Episode 10
See it here:
https://youtu.be/1JcDKNblGTs
How cool would it be if we could one day regulate our atmosphere, control the climate and maybe even blast threatening asteroids into stardust? Well, to do those things would require A LOT of energy. Essentially, we'd have to be able to harness all the power from the Sun. According to the Kardashev scale that ranks planets according to their ability to harness the energy from their star and even their galaxy, that would make Earth a Type II civilization. What does that mean and how far away are we from achieving that level of uber energy capacity? You'll have to tune in to find out as Peter and Richard welcome back Michio Kaku, physicist and science communicator extraordinaire to help us better understand "What If we became a type II civilization?"
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What about the cited more recent profound study that shows that the previous observations are invalid and that claims that the Universe is not expanding?SteveKlinko wrote: ↑June 19th, 2022, 2:28 pmThe Tired Light theory was disproved more than 20 years ago. From Science.org:
The "tired light" hypothesis, mainstay of a dwindling band of contrarians who deny the big bang and its corollary, the expanding universe, has suffered a one-two punch. Observations of supernovae and of galaxies provide the best direct evidence that the universe is truly expanding.
It's a conclusion that most astronomers reached long ago. In 1929, Edwin Hubble...
Observations of distant galaxies provide stunning new evidence that the Universe is not expanding
Oxford University societies hosted two presentations by LPPFusion President and Chief Scientist Eric Lerner in May. The Oxford University Space and Astronomy Society also invited Lerner to speak about his and his colleagues’ new paper on the non-expansion of the universe.
“It is amazing that the predictions of this simple formula are as good as the predictions of the expanding Universe theory, which include complex corrections for hypothetical dark matter and dark energy,” said study co-author Dr Renato Falomo of the Osservatorio Astronomico di Padova, Italy.
Dr Riccardo Scarpa from the Instituto de Astrofısica de Canarias, Spain, who is a co-author of the study, added: “again you could take this to be merely coincidental, but it would be a second big coincidence.” The evidence shows that the Universe is not expanding.
https://www.sci-news.com/astronomy/scie ... 01940.html
Another study:
Physicist Thinks the Universe Is Not Expanding—And He Might Be Right
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-ne ... razy-5904/
https://bigthink.com/articles/the-unive ... expanding/
Secondly: the theory was renamed into New Tired Light Theory (NTL). This may indicate that today's theory is different of nature and that decade old refutations are not applicable.
The creator of New Tired Light theory (NTL) seems to be from the UK.
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Lyndon_Ashmore
https://independent.academia.edu/LyndonAshmore
https://wiki.naturalphilosophy.org/inde ... _E_Ashmore
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Most importantly: with tired light the opportunity to reach (or communicate with) other stars may improve.
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The NEW Warp Drive Possibilities
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https://youtu.be/Vk5bxHetL4s
That Einstein guy was a real bummer for our hopes of a star-hopping, science-fiction-y future. His whole “nothing travels faster than light” rule seems to ensure that exploration of even the local part of our galaxy will be an excruciating slow. But Einstein also gave us a glimmer of hope. He showed us that space and time can be warped - and so the warp drive was conceived. Just recently, a couple of papers contend that these are not pure science fiction.
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psyreporter wrote: ↑June 19th, 2022, 11:30 pmWhat about the cited more recent profound study that shows that the previous observations are invalid and that claims that the Universe is not expanding?SteveKlinko wrote: ↑June 19th, 2022, 2:28 pmThe Tired Light theory was disproved more than 20 years ago. From Science.org:
The "tired light" hypothesis, mainstay of a dwindling band of contrarians who deny the big bang and its corollary, the expanding universe, has suffered a one-two punch. Observations of supernovae and of galaxies provide the best direct evidence that the universe is truly expanding.
It's a conclusion that most astronomers reached long ago. In 1929, Edwin Hubble...
Observations of distant galaxies provide stunning new evidence that the Universe is not expanding
Oxford University societies hosted two presentations by LPPFusion President and Chief Scientist Eric Lerner in May. The Oxford University Space and Astronomy Society also invited Lerner to speak about his and his colleagues’ new paper on the non-expansion of the universe.
“It is amazing that the predictions of this simple formula are as good as the predictions of the expanding Universe theory, which include complex corrections for hypothetical dark matter and dark energy,” said study co-author Dr Renato Falomo of the Osservatorio Astronomico di Padova, Italy.
Dr Riccardo Scarpa from the Instituto de Astrofısica de Canarias, Spain, who is a co-author of the study, added: “again you could take this to be merely coincidental, but it would be a second big coincidence.” The evidence shows that the Universe is not expanding.
https://www.sci-news.com/astronomy/scie ... 01940.html
Another study:
Physicist Thinks the Universe Is Not Expanding—And He Might Be Right
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-ne ... razy-5904/
https://bigthink.com/articles/the-unive ... expanding/
Secondly: the theory was renamed into New Tired Light Theory (NTL). This may indicate that today's theory is different of nature and that decade old refutations are not applicable.
The creator of New Tired Light theory (NTL) seems to be from the UK.
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Lyndon_Ashmore
https://independent.academia.edu/LyndonAshmore
https://wiki.naturalphilosophy.org/inde ... _E_Ashmore
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Most importantly: with tired light the opportunity to reach (or communicate with) other stars may improve.
There are Fringe theories in most Scientific fields. I will stick with the General Scientific consensus (Expanding Universe) on this until Tired Light becomes the consensus theory.
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Humans are never leaving the earth.
Philosophy would be best mobilised to look after the planet we have and for which we are adapted.
The rest of the universe is either completely hostile and antithetical to human life or too remote to get there.
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As we can see The real problem is not whether or not the Universe is expanding or contracting
- the real problem, based upon the problems of space travel and colonization, is why, based upon the resistance received to space
travel and colonization, the Human mind is contracting
Are Humans afraid of space Has the species Man, after being exposed to the true vastness of space, become timid
and fearful of the real environment
This may be a fatal flaw - A timid species in this Universe will soon contract and become extinct
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Your topic is unique in addressing the philosophy side of space exploration so it is interesting to see replies that indicate that it might be better to focus energy and attention to earth.
The following article about dolphin intelligence and the future of philosophy might be of interest. It indicates that the destiniy of intelligent life is to become something like a whal (sumerged in nature).
(2021) Dolphin intelligence and the future of philosophy
We don’t see evidence of supercivilisations across the galaxy because the only ones that persist are the ones that give up the risky path of technology and instead pursue immersion in nature.
Ageing civilisations either self-destruct or shift to become something like a whale. The Russian astrophysicist Vladimir M Lipunov speculated that, across the Universe, the scientific mindset recurrently evolves, discovers all there is to know and, having exhausted its compelling curiosity, proceeds to wither away and become something like a whale.
By 1978, the philosophers Arkadiy Ursul and Yuri Shkolenko wrote of such conjectures – concerning the ‘possible rejection in the future of the “technological way” of development’ – and reflected that this would be tantamount to humanity’s ‘transformation into something like dolphins’.
https://aeon.co/essays/dolphin-intellig ... mic-future
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What about the planned mission to Mars in 2035. Do you think that the mission will be cancelled?Sculptor1 wrote: ↑June 20th, 2022, 8:01 am Let's face it folks.
Humans are never leaving the earth.
Philosophy would be best mobilised to look after the planet we have and for which we are adapted.
The rest of the universe is either completely hostile and antithetical to human life or too remote to get there.
(2022) Elon Musk: Manned Mission to Mars is Just a Few Years Away
Elon Musk stated that a manned mission to Mars could happen as early as 2029 on Wednesday when asked on Twitter.
https://greekreporter.com/2022/03/19/el ... sion-mars/
When it concerns the philosophy of space travel, it is to be noted that as of today - as it appears - no bacteria, insect or animal went farther from Earth than the Moon. As it appears, there is no evidence that Earth life can remain alive at a further distance from Earth.
What is the basis for the idea that humans can be alive on Mars? It seems to be the stubborn dogma that life is a random chemical process that started in a primordial chemical soup.
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It's a vanity project, and will have no use and no lasting consequences.psyreporter wrote: ↑June 24th, 2022, 3:55 amWhat about the planned mission to Mars in 2035. Do you think that the mission will be cancelled?Sculptor1 wrote: ↑June 20th, 2022, 8:01 am Let's face it folks.
Humans are never leaving the earth.
Philosophy would be best mobilised to look after the planet we have and for which we are adapted.
The rest of the universe is either completely hostile and antithetical to human life or too remote to get there.
mars-mission.jpg
If you think that is wrong, then tell me what good you think it might do.
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Actually, it is worse than just a vanity project..psyreporter wrote: ↑June 24th, 2022, 3:55 amWhat about the planned mission to Mars in 2035. Do you think that the mission will be cancelled?Sculptor1 wrote: ↑June 20th, 2022, 8:01 am Let's face it folks.
Humans are never leaving the earth.
Philosophy would be best mobilised to look after the planet we have and for which we are adapted.
The rest of the universe is either completely hostile and antithetical to human life or too remote to get there.
mars-mission.jpg
It is also a criminal waste of precious resources.
I doubt this will even go ahead, if it does it is not likely to be successful.
But one thing is for sure, there is nothing on Mars we need, and nothing that will ever be economically to return to earth.
If there was a mountain of gold bars ready to take, it would not be cost effective to collect them.
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