I think you have confused some things while attempting to answer my question.
psyreporter wrote: ↑June 20th, 2022, 7:19 am
At question might be, is the
certainty aspect that is inherent in the idea repeatability that enables the concept to function as a qualitative differentiator for the foundation of 'scientific evidence', plausible?
Repeatability is appreciated by science not because it gives certainty, but because it makes worth spending resources in studying it. Science has nothing to do with certainty: certainty is what is sought by metaphysics and other philosophies. For example, Descartes, with his “I think, therefore I am” was this way seeking for certainty. That Descartes’ research has nothing to do with science and he knew this very vell: he made that research exactly to overcome the inability of science to reach certainty.
In science we should not confuse certainty with amount of evidence and repeatability: for example, we have a lot of evidence that water boils at a certain temperature, under certain conditions and everybody can check it whenever they want simply by putting water in the same conditions. This does not mean that we have the certainty that water boils under those conditions. Maybe tomorrow something will show that we were wrong and all the evidence needs to be reinterpreted in a completely different way. Nonetheless, the amount of evidence and its repeatability makes it worth to be considered scientific, that is, as an element to make science. Scientific does not mean certain.
So, I talked about repeatabiltiy, let’s keep on repeatability and don’t turn it in a discussion about certainty.
psyreporter wrote: ↑June 20th, 2022, 7:19 am
The infamous thought experiment, flawed as it is, does demonstrate one thing: science can’t explain consciousness
Science cannot explain not only consciousness, but anything. Science does not give explanations, science gives evidence of connections. Explanation is interpretation, that is something left to other things, such as philosophy. When I say that water boils under certain conditions, this does not mean that science has explained the phenomenon of boiling water. Science has found evidence and repeatability that whenever we create those conditions, in water, then it boils. This is not explanation or interpretation, this is evidence of connections: if we connect certains conditions with water, the result is that water boils. Maybe tomorrow we will discover, as I said, that what makes it boil is something else and we need to explain the entire phenomenon differently. This does not make it not scientific, exactly because what makes science scientific is not explanations, it is connections, evidence, repeatability.
Similarly to the concept of certainty, the concepts of explanation and interpretation are rather philosophical concepts and I know that there is a lot of confusion about this. Rather, science can be considered like a giant repository, a giant database, of experiments and connections of experiments that anybody can repeat. You choose how to interpret those experiments.
Science makes use of words like certainty, explanation, interpretation, because frequently science is not very strict in its language and concepts, and this creates confusion, even among professional scientists and philosophers. But let’s be exact here, in order to avoid confusion.
psyreporter wrote: ↑June 20th, 2022, 7:19 am
With Quantum Post Selection, consciousness can exert a physical effect on physical reality backwards in time (in the past). Such a phenomenon could be
experienced as something paranormal as seen from a human perspective.
Scientists introduce new cosmic connectivity: Quantum pigeonhole paradox
"With the new kind of quantum linkages which we have introduced, the particles don't have to interact in the past. In fact, they have no idea that the other particle even existed," said Jeff Tollaksen, Director of the Institute for Quantum Studies at Chapman University.
Aharonov found that Nature gains something very beautiful and exciting with this indeterminism: the present is not only affected by the past but it is also affected by the future. That is, the future (also known as post-selection) can come back to the present (like in the movie "Back to the Future").
Now that we have clarified the concepts of certainty, interpretation, explanation, we can see that the questions about quantum phisics are very similar: it doesn’t matter how strange and how confused the results of quantum physics research are, it doesn’t matter if they contradict the ideas of existence, time, past, present future, anything. What is important is if in quantum physics there are phenomenons that we can repeat. If there aren’t, then quantum physics is not physics, is not science. If there are, quantum physics is science. For example, if we find a repeatable phenomenon were 2+2=5, it doesn’t matter how absurd it is; what matters is if it can be repeated; if it can be repeated, then 2+2=5 is matter of science; if it cannot, it isn’t.
psyreporter wrote: ↑June 20th, 2022, 7:19 am
Principled suppression seems totally irresponsible and potentially catastrophic for human progress in the face of the information available.
Science doesn’t suppress anything, doesn’t forbid anybody to make their research. Science has just the problem of having limited resources, so that it cannot afford dealing with everything; it needs to make a strict selection with strict criteria and one criterion is repeatability. If something cannot be repeated, it is not forbidden to cultivate it, explore, even to advert it. For example, science does not forbid art, religion, spirituality. The problem is when sombody claims that their art, or religion, or spirituality are scientifically based. Then science needs to clarified that they are not scientifically based. But not being scientifically based does not mean not valuable, not serious, not good. I think that nobody in the world can say that Mozart, or faith in God, or meditation are ridiculous things: those who say this are just ignorant about these thing. but they are not science.
So, going back to the topic, ESP can be something important, valuable and interesting. Problems arise if you say that it is scientifically based. It would be like saying that the cost of a painting of Van Gogh must be exactly 3,000,000 dollars because there are scientific reasons to determine exactly that price.