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evolution wrote: May 19th, 2020, 7:39 am
Terrapin Station wrote: May 19th, 2020, 7:33 am
lol re claiming that somehow you think using something other than your brain.
LOL re you not even being able to think, let alone, see and understand anything else.

Also, I NEVER mentioned anything, let alone suggested anything, about 'thinking'.

You really do need to stop making assumptions, and start asking some clarifying questions, that is; if you ever really do want to start understanding what it is that I am saying, and meaning here.
Like the assumption about what I was referring to with "thinking"?
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Terrapin Station wrote: May 19th, 2020, 7:42 am
evolution wrote: May 19th, 2020, 7:39 am

LOL re you not even being able to think, let alone, see and understand anything else.

Also, I NEVER mentioned anything, let alone suggested anything, about 'thinking'.

You really do need to stop making assumptions, and start asking some clarifying questions, that is; if you ever really do want to start understanding what it is that I am saying, and meaning here.
Like the assumption about what I was referring to with "thinking"?
If you want to make a claim that I was assuming some thing, then what do you want to put forward as the assumption that I was actually making?
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Terrapin Station wrote: May 19th, 2020, 7:42 am
evolution wrote: May 19th, 2020, 7:39 am

LOL re you not even being able to think, let alone, see and understand anything else.

Also, I NEVER mentioned anything, let alone suggested anything, about 'thinking'.

You really do need to stop making assumptions, and start asking some clarifying questions, that is; if you ever really do want to start understanding what it is that I am saying, and meaning here.
Like the assumption about what I was referring to with "thinking"?
'Yes'.
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evolution wrote: May 20th, 2020, 9:44 pm
Terrapin Station wrote: May 19th, 2020, 7:42 am

Like the assumption about what I was referring to with "thinking"?
'Yes'.
You really need to stop doing that.
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Terrapin Station wrote: May 21st, 2020, 9:37 am
evolution wrote: May 20th, 2020, 9:44 pm

'Yes'.
You really need to stop doing that.
I really need to stop doing 'what' exactly?

All I did was answer your clarifying question here.
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evolution wrote: May 22nd, 2020, 12:49 am
Terrapin Station wrote: May 21st, 2020, 9:37 am

You really need to stop doing that.
I really need to stop doing 'what' exactly?

All I did was answer your clarifying question here.
You really do need to stop making assumptions.
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Terrapin Station wrote: May 22nd, 2020, 6:57 am
evolution wrote: May 22nd, 2020, 12:49 am

I really need to stop doing 'what' exactly?

All I did was answer your clarifying question here.
You really do need to stop making assumptions.
What supposed "assumptions" are you claiming that I am making?

Are you able to clarify that question?
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rayback wrote: January 4th, 2010, 11:36 am -

Its 2010.

Lets go back 47 billion years...


Where did the Universe come from?

It could NOT have popped out of nowhere all by itself.

Therefore, either the Universe has always been here, or, God did it.



This new video has made me think a lot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-D7RKvxMSU


What do you guys say?

Can you answer coherently?

Try it.

A

I'll give it a try. A 4-dimensional substrate space can function as the stage on which two universes appear serially. Each pair has a beginning in time.

If you picture the 4D substrate space as two infinite spaces connected by a Planck-sized wormhole, then, if the circumstances are right, two 3D universes can inflate into being on opposite sides of the wormhole. These two universes contain matter and antimatter in equal amounts, but the two basic fields of matter arrange in such a way that our universe contains quarks and leptons, while the counterpart of our universe on the other side of the wormhole contains antiquarks and antileptons only. Matter/antimatter asymmetry solved!

If our universe (and our mirrored one) has accelerated away into infinity, back on the wormhole (fountain of life, the holy singularity) the situation is right to let two new 3D universes inflate into real existence, from the virtual Planck-sized 3D volume on the 4D wormhole. The negative curvature of the wormhole inflates the virtual particles, confined to 3D, into real being. Dark energy solved!

So, the universe is infinite in 4D extent. I have calculated that direct after inflation, the both 3D universes had already a diameter of 10exp11 times that of the observable universe (of nowadays). A pretty big inflation! Flatness problem solved. Flat spacers are right. But only locally.
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And were does this infinite serie of big bangs, each starting with their own time, come from? Well, God resides outside the spactime involved (maybe hidden variables give him an opportunity to interact). Even in its eternity and infinity He could have spoken the word to let it all be! Maybe he blowed it into existence as a bubble from His divine chewing Gummi...
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I had a revealing dream. The gods showed me why they created the universe and why it's there. They were tired of eternally making love or hate. The virus god, the whale god, the homonid god, all contributed to the creation of love and hste preons. They offered solace for the existential void heaven found itself in. Since they let loose these particles and the right space for them to live in, the universe periodically inflates in two mirrored universes from a center singularity and the gods watch us, laying easy on their backs, watching us on the eternal heavenly heavens. Already for an eternity. They desperately try to contact us now. They hadn't counted on the contribution of the homonid gods...
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