Prophetic and Awakening songs

Use this forum to have philosophical discussions about aesthetics and art. What is art? What is beauty? What makes art good? You can also use this forum to discuss philosophy in the arts, namely to discuss the philosophical points in any particular movie, TV show, book or story.
Post Reply
User avatar
Teralek
Posts: 857
Joined: March 16th, 2012, 7:20 pm
Favorite Philosopher: Bertrand Russell
Location: Edinburgh
Contact:

Prophetic and Awakening songs

Post by Teralek »

It is my impression that music can often worth more in spiritual awareness than all "sacred" textbooks. Their lyrics go to the core of humanity condition.

Here are a few examples:
O Fortuna (O Fortune) velut luna (like the moon) statu variabilis (you are changeable) semper crescis (ever waxing) aut decrescis; (and waning;) vita detestabilis (hateful life) nunc obdurat (first oppresses) et tunc curat (and then soothes) ludo mentis aciem, (as fancy takes it) egestatem, (poverty) potestatem (and power) dissolvit ut glaciem. (it melts them like ice.)

Sors immanis (Fate - monstrous) et inanis, (and empty) rota tu volubilis, (you whirling wheel) status malus, (you are malevolent) vana salus (well-being is vain) semper dissolubilis, (and always fades to nothing) obumbrata (shadowed) et velata (and veiled) michi quoque niteris; (you plague me too;) nunc per ludum (now through the game) dorsum nudum (I bring my bare back) fero tui sceleris. (to your villainy.)

Sors salutis (Fate is against me) et virtutis (in health) michi nunc contraria, (and virtue) est affectus (driven on) et defectus (and weighted down) semper in angaria. (always enslaved.) Hac in hora (So at this hour) sine mora (without delay) corde pulsum tangite; (pluck the vibrating strings;) quod per sortem (since Fate) sternit fortem, (strikes down the string) mecum omnes plangite! (everyone weep with me!)
I am a caveman I am an ape or a fish On the earth, all year round, I run in circles, I run in circles

I am only one, then millions I am a man with a lion heart At war, all year round, I run in circles, I run in circles

I am a man full of ambitions Nice car and nice house In the bedroom, in the living room I run in circles, I run in circles

I make love and revolution I analyze the facts of the matter I go forth, go forth backwards I run in circles, I run in circles

You see, I'm not a man I am the king of illusion At heart, may I be forgiven, I am the king, the king of fools

I've made the world my way Cast in gold and concrete Caged body and prisoned heart I run in circles, I run in circles

Sitting in front of my television I am the negation of man Pure convenience goods I've had it, I've had it

You see, I'm not a man I am the king of illusion At heart, may I be forgiven, I am the king, the king of fools

I control fire, I control the game I control the world, and behold what I've done with it A frozen land, a scorched land The land of men that men forsake!

I am a man with his back to the wall Like a freak of nature On the earth, with no other reason I run in circles, I run in circles

I am a man and I consider All the horror of my nature For my trouble, my punishment I run in circles, I run in circles
Three passions, simple but overwhelmingly strong, have governed my life: the longing for love, the search for knowledge, and unbearable pity for the suffering of mankind. ~Bertrand Russell
Schaps
Posts: 809
Joined: March 30th, 2012, 2:42 am
Favorite Philosopher: Nietzsche

Re: Prophetic and Awakening songs

Post by Schaps »

Very well said! Music, poetry and art in general are the expressions of the human condition. I have always been fascinated by the language of music, the nuances that are unique to different cultures and the mathematical possibilities of sound in general. "Musicology" is the foundation of the elements used to play the elusive spiritual game described by Hermann Hesse in his magnum opus "The Glass Bead Game".

From Wikipedia: "The Glass Bead Game takes place at an unspecified date centuries into the future. Hesse suggested that he imagined the book's narrator writing around the start of the 25th century.[2] The setting is a fictional province of central Europe called Castalia, which was reserved by political decision for the life of the mind; technology and economic life are kept to a strict minimum. Castalia is home to an austere order of intellectuals with a twofold mission: to run boarding schools for boys, and to nurture and play the Glass Bead Game, whose exact nature remains elusive and whose devotees occupy a special school within Castalia known as Waldzell. The rules of the game are only alluded to – they are so sophisticated that they are not easy to imagine. Playing the game well requires years of hard study of music, mathematics, and cultural history. The game is essentially an abstract synthesis of all arts and sciences. It proceeds by players making deep connections between seemingly unrelated topics."
User avatar
3uGH7D4MLj
Posts: 934
Joined: January 4th, 2013, 3:39 pm

Re: Prophetic and Awakening songs

Post by 3uGH7D4MLj »

Nice piece. Thanks. I sing and play every day for the simple joy of it. Sometimes I wonder What is a song? Why do we do this? How did this come to be so important? You can say that a song is just an advertisement for an object for sale, for a $15 piece of plastic. But it's more, much more.

Prophetic and Awakening? What do you mean?

I wish there was more singing and dancing in my culture.
fair to say
A Poster He or I
Posts: 1104
Joined: March 18th, 2011, 4:57 pm
Favorite Philosopher: Anaximander

Re: Prophetic and Awakening songs

Post by A Poster He or I »

In response to Post # 2,

Hermann Hesse's The Glass Bead Game is my favorite novel of all time. It is a deeply flawed novel, simultaneously Hesse's greatest achievement while essentially failing as a novel per se. After tackling the gargantuan task of trying to identify the relationship between aesthetics and the conscious intellect, all via a somewhat simplistic coming-of-age story, the novel is unable to achieve any actual synthesis and just sort of falls apart at the end. It is a masterpiece precisely because it so thoroughly reflects the inability to analyze the aesthetic solely in terms of the intellect, something I believe the novel is well aware of in its own telling. Hesse was very wise not to provide too many details about how the Glass Bead Game is played, even though it is central to the story. I used to dream about some auteur film director making a movie of the novel, but I now believe it would be impossible since we would actually have to see the Game in action which would destroy its metaphorical nature. It is an invention only possible in literature I've come to think.
Schaps
Posts: 809
Joined: March 30th, 2012, 2:42 am
Favorite Philosopher: Nietzsche

Glass bead games

Post by Schaps »

I agree that the GBG is a phenomenal work. I don't think it fails as a novel if one reads it as an exploration of existential choices similar to those Hesse explored in Siddartha and Steppenwolf ie, the wavering between a life as intellectual aesthete removed from the concerns of the ordinary vs a life of hedonism and confrontation with the good, the bad and the ugly of life. I have been so intrigued by the allusion to a Glass Bead Game that I developed a playable version as a teenager. It is in manuscript form and unpublished. There have been a few attempts to describe playable forms of the game but none seem to have been adopted to any extent. Some have described the web/Internet as a GBG but Hesse's vision was so much more than that ( I think.).
A Poster He or I
Posts: 1104
Joined: March 18th, 2011, 4:57 pm
Favorite Philosopher: Anaximander

Re: Prophetic and Awakening songs

Post by A Poster He or I »

I should qualify my statement that The Glass Bead Game fails as a novel, by clarifying that I mean only that the literary form of a novel proves unable to accommodate the story Hesse has to tell, which is a story without resolution (at least for Hesse).

Both Steppenwolf and Siddhartha resolve their respective stories via the main characters' transcendence of their circumstances. Steppenwolf is particularly effective with its metaphor of the "Magic Theatre" to allow the protagonist to balance his hedonistic (Dyonisian) inclinations with his burgeois (Apollonian) sensibilities. Siddhartha is much less effective, IMO, but the protagonist still finds, via the lessons of the character Vasudeva, the means to transcend the dichotomy of worldly self-indulgence and the self-negation of Buddhism.

By contrast, GBG's protagonist merely leaves his situation behind him, is promptly thwarted, then the creative efforts of his youth are presented as some sort of legacy. Not a very effective conclusion, but a much better illustration of a life's consequences in my opinion.
Post Reply

Return to “Philosophy of the Arts and Philosophy in the Arts”

2023/2024 Philosophy Books of the Month

Entanglement - Quantum and Otherwise

Entanglement - Quantum and Otherwise
by John K Danenbarger
January 2023

Mark Victor Hansen, Relentless: Wisdom Behind the Incomparable Chicken Soup for the Soul

Mark Victor Hansen, Relentless: Wisdom Behind the Incomparable Chicken Soup for the Soul
by Mitzi Perdue
February 2023

Rediscovering the Wisdom of Human Nature: How Civilization Destroys Happiness

Rediscovering the Wisdom of Human Nature: How Civilization Destroys Happiness
by Chet Shupe
March 2023

The Unfakeable Code®

The Unfakeable Code®
by Tony Jeton Selimi
April 2023

The Book: On the Taboo Against Knowing Who You Are

The Book: On the Taboo Against Knowing Who You Are
by Alan Watts
May 2023

Killing Abel

Killing Abel
by Michael Tieman
June 2023

Reconfigurement: Reconfiguring Your Life at Any Stage and Planning Ahead

Reconfigurement: Reconfiguring Your Life at Any Stage and Planning Ahead
by E. Alan Fleischauer
July 2023

First Survivor: The Impossible Childhood Cancer Breakthrough

First Survivor: The Impossible Childhood Cancer Breakthrough
by Mark Unger
August 2023

Predictably Irrational

Predictably Irrational
by Dan Ariely
September 2023

Artwords

Artwords
by Beatriz M. Robles
November 2023

Fireproof Happiness: Extinguishing Anxiety & Igniting Hope

Fireproof Happiness: Extinguishing Anxiety & Igniting Hope
by Dr. Randy Ross
December 2023

Beyond the Golden Door: Seeing the American Dream Through an Immigrant's Eyes

Beyond the Golden Door: Seeing the American Dream Through an Immigrant's Eyes
by Ali Master
February 2024

2022 Philosophy Books of the Month

Emotional Intelligence At Work

Emotional Intelligence At Work
by Richard M Contino & Penelope J Holt
January 2022

Free Will, Do You Have It?

Free Will, Do You Have It?
by Albertus Kral
February 2022

My Enemy in Vietnam

My Enemy in Vietnam
by Billy Springer
March 2022

2X2 on the Ark

2X2 on the Ark
by Mary J Giuffra, PhD
April 2022

The Maestro Monologue

The Maestro Monologue
by Rob White
May 2022

What Makes America Great

What Makes America Great
by Bob Dowell
June 2022

The Truth Is Beyond Belief!

The Truth Is Beyond Belief!
by Jerry Durr
July 2022

Living in Color

Living in Color
by Mike Murphy
August 2022 (tentative)

The Not So Great American Novel

The Not So Great American Novel
by James E Doucette
September 2022

Mary Jane Whiteley Coggeshall, Hicksite Quaker, Iowa/National Suffragette And Her Speeches

Mary Jane Whiteley Coggeshall, Hicksite Quaker, Iowa/National Suffragette And Her Speeches
by John N. (Jake) Ferris
October 2022

In It Together: The Beautiful Struggle Uniting Us All

In It Together: The Beautiful Struggle Uniting Us All
by Eckhart Aurelius Hughes
November 2022

The Smartest Person in the Room: The Root Cause and New Solution for Cybersecurity

The Smartest Person in the Room
by Christian Espinosa
December 2022

2021 Philosophy Books of the Month

The Biblical Clock: The Untold Secrets Linking the Universe and Humanity with God's Plan

The Biblical Clock
by Daniel Friedmann
March 2021

Wilderness Cry: A Scientific and Philosophical Approach to Understanding God and the Universe

Wilderness Cry
by Dr. Hilary L Hunt M.D.
April 2021

Fear Not, Dream Big, & Execute: Tools To Spark Your Dream And Ignite Your Follow-Through

Fear Not, Dream Big, & Execute
by Jeff Meyer
May 2021

Surviving the Business of Healthcare: Knowledge is Power

Surviving the Business of Healthcare
by Barbara Galutia Regis M.S. PA-C
June 2021

Winning the War on Cancer: The Epic Journey Towards a Natural Cure

Winning the War on Cancer
by Sylvie Beljanski
July 2021

Defining Moments of a Free Man from a Black Stream

Defining Moments of a Free Man from a Black Stream
by Dr Frank L Douglas
August 2021

If Life Stinks, Get Your Head Outta Your Buts

If Life Stinks, Get Your Head Outta Your Buts
by Mark L. Wdowiak
September 2021

The Preppers Medical Handbook

The Preppers Medical Handbook
by Dr. William W Forgey M.D.
October 2021

Natural Relief for Anxiety and Stress: A Practical Guide

Natural Relief for Anxiety and Stress
by Dr. Gustavo Kinrys, MD
November 2021

Dream For Peace: An Ambassador Memoir

Dream For Peace
by Dr. Ghoulem Berrah
December 2021