There is no picture of a flower.
Failing to see art in the child's work is a failing that YOU have, not the child.
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Not a flower - look again.cavacava wrote: ↑October 14th, 2018, 3:44 pm
It looked like a flower to me.
In regards to the child's rendition, I never blamed the child. It may be a very good work on the part of the child, but it is not art.
ThomasHobbes wrote: ↑October 14th, 2018, 5:02 pmNot a flower - look again.
The child's art exactly fulfils the definition you gave.
Well why not? He probably made it in art class, with art materials, maybe there was an art teacher. I would say that the product was art. Kid art is the most wonderful thing.
Not at all. I am, and have always, questioned the historical use of words, how phrases have changed, what people mean when they say something, what I mean, and the differences between written language, spoken language, songs, stories, how some concepts are collections of other words, how they fill in spaces for the convenience of use - to make communication fluid and quick, or to give depth - and how thought is largely “thought of” as being a verbose item with which we tend to rigidly adhere to without realising it (just like the manner in which I’ve typed this out now without any really understanding of where the words are flowing from and how I’m placing them in order in order to express some rather obscure and delicate idea about my thoughts and feelings of language.Eduk wrote: ↑October 15th, 2018, 6:34 amThis is the crux of the problem BG. You see current trends to inhibit free speech and feel there is a lack of meaning in the word art.
I see inhibitions to free speech as being a permanent feature of mankind and feel blessed that I live in a country which has free speech and I feel that the meaning of the word art is inherent to the individual's meaning, so therefore I feel art is meaningful.