Darsis wrote:So does the Will represent Chaos, Order, Neither or Both?
If when you say "will" you are referring to the human will, then I guess I would say both, in a sense. I believe that one of the manifestations of order and chaos respectively is sense and nonsense. The mind of every person is filled with a intermingled stew of sense and nonsense, wisdom and foolishness. Everything that we do or say or believe is always wise to some degree and foolish to some degree; and every wise thing has something foolish about it, and every foolish thing has something wise about it. The human mind itself is a locus of entasy.
What makes my thesis different is that while Dawkins sees the "accidental" formation of the remarkable molecule as a mere accident, I see that accident as itself part of a larger dynamic. What he sees as a fortunate accident, I see as entasy -- a distinct, cosmic power in itself. Dawkins sees mistakes as just mistakes, whereas I believe that mistakes are cosmically entangled with creation, growth, meaning, utility, etc.Greta wrote:How do you see your ideas differing from Richard Dawkins's explanation for a possible cause of abiogenesis in The Selfish Gene?Mysterio448 wrote: (Nested quote removed.)
This is a pretty accurate summary of my thesis. So, do you think my thesis explains existence?
At some point a particularly remarkable molecule was formed by accident. We will call it the Replicator. It may not necessarily have been the biggest or the most complex molecule around, but it had the extraordinary property of being able to create copies of itself. This may seem a very unlikely sort of accident to happen. So it was. It was exceedingly improbable. In the lifetime of a man, things that are that improbable can be treated for practical purposes as impossible. That is why you will never win a big prize on the football pools. But in our human estimates of what is probable and what is not, we are not used to dealing in hundreds of millions of years. If you filled in pools coupons every week for a hundred million years you would very likely win several jackpots.
Also, Dawkins seems to imply that the eventual development of this "remarkable molecule" is insignificant because it is a statistical inevitability given large amounts of time. However, statistics does not actually explain why this fortunate accident occurs. Statistics does not actually explain anything; statistics merely records the way things tend to happen yet it does not explain why things happen in that way. It is merely a record of the effects, not a statement of the cause.
So in summary, Dawkins and I basically believe the same thing, except that whereas he believes that the emergence of order from chaos is insignificant (mere happenstance), I believe that such emergence is indicative of a primal principle of this cosmos. That same principle is not limited to biology but is also observable in many other areas, such as the ones I mention in the OP (e.g., quantum mechanics, fluid dynamics, supernovas, black holes, etc.)