Check out the latest detection of gravity waves. I think(not sure)Greta wrote: ↑April 7th, 2018, 11:39 pm Before I attend your post, I will try to blow your mind back based on
some thoughts in bed last night
Everything has a maximum speed. So a black hole is where the gravity
is faster than light speed. A sonic black hole occurs when inwards air
pressure is greater than the speed of sound.
So I wondered about our mind's have processing speed, the reason why
we can never perceive the exact present, always being at least a
matter of milliseconds behind. What would a consciousness black hole
be like? So I imagined a brain and nervous system that's hauling in
information too quickly for conscious processing ... sound familiar?
What happens to that leftover information? All of the
information's disparate qualities are mashed up and compressed into an
effective mental black box that we refer to as "general impressions",
"instinct" or "intuition".
they determined that their speed is the same as light speed. Sure is
something weird going on in a black hole. Hard to figure it out but I
would surmise that any ecosystems sucked past the event horizon would
destroy any meaning consciously felt by that ecosystem. That is not
the same thing as information loss so I don't think meaning loss has
been addressed by science.
I like your ideas on -pan-vitalism. Might we have a Gaia Galaxy and/orGreta wrote: ↑April 7th, 2018, 11:39 pm Yes, panvitalism - that the universe is a living system containing
living systems - makes more sense to me than panpsychism (with its
competition problem).
My impression at present is that it's not earlier forms of life that
will be pertinent so much as what will come. It seems very possible
that over billions of years ever more advanced civilisations will
emerge and once they start swapping information and connecting, the
galaxy itself develops a kind of nervous system, just as humans have
effectively added significantly to the Earth's "nervous system" - its
capacity to notice its environment. Basically the kind of merging you
spoke about above.
Now consider the challenges advanced organisms (or post-organisms)
must face as the universe ages - asteroids and comets, stellar storms,
the death of their star, rogue planets, stars and black holes,
supernovae, black hole and neutron star blasts. The capacity to
travel interstellar distances is critical. Then consider possible
unknown risks that may lurk in the dense and intense centres of
galaxies. Then there are the monstrous effects when galaxies collide.
Any entities capable of surviving all that would seemingly be able to
tolerate any conditions, including being able to live off the energy
of space itself in some bizarre (to us) immaterial manner and may even
find a safe way of negotiating collapses in space or another big bang
- or they might be the trigger.
a Gaia Universe!. While this is attractive to me I think it has little
hope of scientific verification other than as a default explanation
about keeping our planets orbit in a goldilocks track despite normal
orbital forces to the contrary. I don't know if that has happened but
if so we all know it was Gaia watching out for us!
If one goes back to earlier forms of life it may not seem to tell us
much about the future, as you say. However, if one could go back to
before the Big Bang it should tells us all those things you wonder
about in own on future. That is because it is it would be very much
the same because it is that fractal replica of us only on a smaller
scale.
Thanks for bringing those ideas up!