For me, as I have said elsewhere, the subject is the Absolute. Everything that exists, exists in relation to the subject, the eternal present. Only the subject exists in the genuine sense of the term. I have written more about this, as you know. The subject is also the universal of all universals. But this cannot be explained, just seen by a deep phenomenological intuition. You can see it or you cannot. Such is philosophy when it is more than hair-splitting. It is beyond words. It is poetry. All I say here is poetry. All you say is poetry. All that Consul says is poetry, although he probably does not admit it. We can understand each others' poems more or less, or we do not understand them at all. I can understand your poems only superficially, but I cannot get a clear intuition of the essence of how you see reality. Perhaps nobody understands my philosophy. But here we are, reading each others' poems. It is sometimes boring, sometimes fun, sometimes enjoyable and exciting. Such is philosophy, the art of thinking.GaryLouisSmith wrote: ↑October 19th, 2019, 6:18 pm I imagine you as a serious scientific rationalist. I think for you the individual, not the universal, is the important thing.
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Have you posted your philosophical poetry anywhere online so I can read it?Tamminen wrote: ↑October 20th, 2019, 4:50 amFor me, as I have said elsewhere, the subject is the Absolute. Everything that exists, exists in relation to the subject, the eternal present. Only the subject exists in the genuine sense of the term. I have written more about this, as you know. The subject is also the universal of all universals. But this cannot be explained, just seen by a deep phenomenological intuition. You can see it or you cannot. Such is philosophy when it is more than hair-splitting. It is beyond words. It is poetry. All I say here is poetry. All you say is poetry. All that Consul says is poetry, although he probably does not admit it. We can understand each others' poems more or less, or we do not understand them at all. I can understand your poems only superficially, but I cannot get a clear intuition of the essence of how you see reality. Perhaps nobody understands my philosophy. But here we are, reading each others' poems. It is sometimes boring, sometimes fun, sometimes enjoyable and exciting. Such is philosophy, the art of thinking.GaryLouisSmith wrote: ↑October 19th, 2019, 6:18 pm I imagine you as a serious scientific rationalist. I think for you the individual, not the universal, is the important thing.
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Here's what I don't understand about your philosophy. How many subjects are there? Is each conscious human being a subject? Or is there only one Super Subject and all human subjects are somehow "in" that?Tamminen wrote: ↑October 20th, 2019, 4:50 amFor me, as I have said elsewhere, the subject is the Absolute. Everything that exists, exists in relation to the subject, the eternal present. Only the subject exists in the genuine sense of the term. I have written more about this, as you know. The subject is also the universal of all universals. But this cannot be explained, just seen by a deep phenomenological intuition. You can see it or you cannot. Such is philosophy when it is more than hair-splitting. It is beyond words. It is poetry. All I say here is poetry. All you say is poetry. All that Consul says is poetry, although he probably does not admit it. We can understand each others' poems more or less, or we do not understand them at all. I can understand your poems only superficially, but I cannot get a clear intuition of the essence of how you see reality. Perhaps nobody understands my philosophy. But here we are, reading each others' poems. It is sometimes boring, sometimes fun, sometimes enjoyable and exciting. Such is philosophy, the art of thinking.GaryLouisSmith wrote: ↑October 19th, 2019, 6:18 pm I imagine you as a serious scientific rationalist. I think for you the individual, not the universal, is the important thing.
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I usually refer to this:GaryLouisSmith wrote: ↑October 20th, 2019, 5:26 am Have you posted your philosophical poetry anywhere online so I can read it?
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but if you have time, have a look at this:
https://ajatuslaukkaa.blogspot.com/
Yes, and all the 100 000 000 000 000 000 000 insects. Nobody knows how many individual subjects there are.How many subjects are there? Is each conscious human being a subject?
Yes, all individual subjects are its manifestations. If you are really interested, read the texts I refer to above.Or is there only one Super Subject and all human subjects are somehow "in" that?
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I read What is Being. I think I understand your philosophy much better now. You write well. Thanks. Now I'll go to your blog Philosophical Fragments.Tamminen wrote: ↑October 20th, 2019, 7:05 amI usually refer to this:GaryLouisSmith wrote: ↑October 20th, 2019, 5:26 am Have you posted your philosophical poetry anywhere online so I can read it?
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=15258
but if you have time, have a look at this:
https://ajatuslaukkaa.blogspot.com/Yes, and all the 100 000 000 000 000 000 000 insects. Nobody knows how many individual subjects there are.How many subjects are there? Is each conscious human being a subject?Yes, all individual subjects are its manifestations. If you are really interested, read the texts I refer to above.Or is there only one Super Subject and all human subjects are somehow "in" that?
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GaryLouisSmith wrote: ↑October 20th, 2019, 7:44 amI have read most of your blogspot writing. I admit that after a while I did jump around, but I think that makes no difference in understanding it. It is easy to read and rather enjoyable. It becomes addictive. I imagine your writing is the flapping of the wings of a moth as it flits around the Flame, which of course is the Subject itself. There is one thing that I didn't find in your writing that I would like to read. Please write about the place philosophical writing itself has in relation to the Subject. In my writing the Boy is the appearing of Philosophy itself. How does the Subject become reflexive in the words it might use to speak of itself. Write about philosophical writing and the place it has in that Trinity of Subject-consciousness-object. If you have any questions about what I thought of your writing, please ask. Is Finnish your first language? If it is, your English is impressive and perfect.Tamminen wrote: ↑October 20th, 2019, 7:05 am
I usually refer to this:
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=15258
but if you have time, have a look at this:
https://ajatuslaukkaa.blogspot.com/
Yes, and all the 100 000 000 000 000 000 000 insects. Nobody knows how many individual subjects there are.
Yes, all individual subjects are its manifestations. If you are really interested, read the texts I refer to above.
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pudding-headednessGaryLouisSmith wrote: ↑October 19th, 2019, 9:03 pmWhere do you think Deconstruction finally leads a human mind?
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Here's a book on Deconstruction for your reading pleasure - https://www.dropbox.com/s/z4ue8kvcoyas1 ... n.pdf?dl=0Consul wrote: ↑October 20th, 2019, 10:27 pmpudding-headednessGaryLouisSmith wrote: ↑October 19th, 2019, 9:03 pmWhere do you think Deconstruction finally leads a human mind?
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I'm sorry, but I cannot derive any pleasure from reading unreadable texts.GaryLouisSmith wrote: ↑October 21st, 2019, 12:25 amHere's a book on Deconstruction for your reading pleasure - https://www.dropbox.com/s/z4ue8kvcoyas1 ... n.pdf?dl=0
Jacques Derrida > Deconstruction: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/derrida/#Dec
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(Martin, C. B. "The Need for Ontology: Some Choices." Philosophy 68/266 (1993): 505–522. p. 513)
Properties are needed as ontological posits for reference, truthmaking, similarity, and causality. The view that things (objects or substances) are nothing but propertyless "blobs" is extremely implausible. Property-talk is ubiquitous both in ordinary and in scientific language, and it cannot convincingly be paraphrased away in such a way that it becomes entirely ontologically innocent or neutral. I fail to see how an ontological commitment to properties can be avoided sincerely. (Note that this is not to say that all predicates or concepts represent real properties—that there is a 1:1 correspondence between predicates/concepts and properties!)
Of course, given realism about properties, the question as to whether they are universals or particulars is still unanswered. (My answer is that they they are particulars.)
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You will like that book. I guarantee it. It's funny. It's not one of your erudite high academic things.Consul wrote: ↑October 21st, 2019, 12:43 amI'm sorry, but I cannot derive any pleasure from reading unreadable texts.GaryLouisSmith wrote: ↑October 21st, 2019, 12:25 amHere's a book on Deconstruction for your reading pleasure - https://www.dropbox.com/s/z4ue8kvcoyas1 ... n.pdf?dl=0
Jacques Derrida > Deconstruction: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/derrida/#Dec
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You do know the art of taking something that is rather simple and making it impossibly complex.Consul wrote: ↑October 21st, 2019, 12:47 am "Without properties, objects are empty and predicates blind."
(Martin, C. B. "The Need for Ontology: Some Choices." Philosophy 68/266 (1993): 505–522. p. 513)
Properties are needed as ontological posits for reference, truthmaking, similarity, and causality. The view that things (objects or substances) are nothing but propertyless "blobs" is extremely implausible. Property-talk is ubiquitous both in ordinary and in scientific language, and it cannot convincingly be paraphrased away in such a way that it becomes entirely ontologically innocent or neutral. I fail to see how an ontological commitment to properties can be avoided sincerely. (Note that this is not to say that all predicates or concepts represent real properties—that there is a 1:1 correspondence between predicates/concepts and properties!)
Of course, given realism about properties, the question as to whether they are universals or particulars is still unanswered. (My answer is that they they are particulars.)
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Yes. As to the role of philosophical writing, I think I have nothing clever to say about it at the moment.
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What do you think is "rather simple" here?GaryLouisSmith wrote: ↑October 21st, 2019, 1:53 amYou do know the art of taking something that is rather simple and making it impossibly complex.Consul wrote: ↑October 21st, 2019, 12:47 am "Without properties, objects are empty and predicates blind."
(Martin, C. B. "The Need for Ontology: Some Choices." Philosophy 68/266 (1993): 505–522. p. 513)
Properties are needed as ontological posits for reference, truthmaking, similarity, and causality. The view that things (objects or substances) are nothing but propertyless "blobs" is extremely implausible. Property-talk is ubiquitous both in ordinary and in scientific language, and it cannot convincingly be paraphrased away in such a way that it becomes entirely ontologically innocent or neutral. I fail to see how an ontological commitment to properties can be avoided sincerely. (Note that this is not to say that all predicates or concepts represent real properties—that there is a 1:1 correspondence between predicates/concepts and properties!)
Of course, given realism about properties, the question as to whether they are universals or particulars is still unanswered. (My answer is that they they are particulars.)
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Instead of having only simple universals, you have doubled up everything with tropes and concepts and then tried to make it all fit together.Consul wrote: ↑October 21st, 2019, 3:19 pmWhat do you think is "rather simple" here?GaryLouisSmith wrote: ↑October 21st, 2019, 1:53 am You do know the art of taking something that is rather simple and making it impossibly complex.
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