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Bravery requiring thought

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Kane Jiang
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Bravery requiring thought

Post by Kane Jiang » August 8th, 2019, 6:40 am

If emotions are evoked by the brain (I don't believe this, I am just trying to see from the point of view of most of psychology), then where does that leave bravery?

Bravery isn't an emotion, supposedly (I DO believe this) yet bravery in reality doesn't require much thought. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to be brave. Someone might argue with you that bravery requires a [mental] choice, but then that leaves bravery requiring a choice AND action and/or willpower. How can bravery be composed of two different things, when all throughout history bravery was referred to as ONE thing, perhaps one feeling or trait.

I believe bravery is either a feeling (and feelings are more general than emotions) or trait and while sometimes it can require a mental choice, sometimes instinct can make that choice for you.

Also, I thought bravery not being an emotion was unanimously agreed upon? At least by people in the medieval era (medieval Europe and even China). Sigh, if we have regressed from those times.

If science doesn't explain bravery not being an emotion, then that means something else made us know it :D

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Re: Bravery requiring thought

Post by dawwg » August 11th, 2019, 11:17 am

In the context of sacrificing yourself or your loved ones. I think bravery can stem from both emotion and a mental decision.

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Re: Bravery requiring thought

Post by Consul » August 11th, 2019, 6:30 pm

Kane Jiang wrote:
August 8th, 2019, 6:40 am
I believe bravery is either a feeling (and feelings are more general than emotions) or trait and while sometimes it can require a mental choice, sometimes instinct can make that choice for you.
Bravery isn't a feeling but a character trait, and as such it is a behavioral disposition (not to shy away from dangerous situations).
"We may philosophize well or ill, but we must philosophize." – Wilfrid Sellars

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Re: Bravery requiring thought

Post by Pantagruel » August 12th, 2019, 8:39 am

I think bravery could be described more objectively as risk-tolerance relative to outcome....

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Re: Bravery requiring thought

Post by h_k_s » August 12th, 2019, 12:18 pm

Kane Jiang wrote:
August 8th, 2019, 6:40 am
If emotions are evoked by the brain (I don't believe this, I am just trying to see from the point of view of most of psychology), then where does that leave bravery?

Bravery isn't an emotion, supposedly (I DO believe this) yet bravery in reality doesn't require much thought. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to be brave. Someone might argue with you that bravery requires a [mental] choice, but then that leaves bravery requiring a choice AND action and/or willpower. How can bravery be composed of two different things, when all throughout history bravery was referred to as ONE thing, perhaps one feeling or trait.

I believe bravery is either a feeling (and feelings are more general than emotions) or trait and while sometimes it can require a mental choice, sometimes instinct can make that choice for you.

Also, I thought bravery not being an emotion was unanimously agreed upon? At least by people in the medieval era (medieval Europe and even China). Sigh, if we have regressed from those times.

If science doesn't explain bravery not being an emotion, then that means something else made us know it :D
Bravery is a personality trait. Some people have it. Others do not.

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