Felix wrote: ↑November 27th, 2019, 4:46 pm
Leibniz1699: I just feel that the conventional notion of freedom is incorrect and based on Anthropomorphism. Purely free actions must have no cause or reason. They must be purely random and spontaneous without external influence.
We can't avoid being anthropomorphic, order and chaos are human concepts, and from our perspective, order cannot come from chaos anymore than something can come from nothing. Although such is possible it's unlikely to the point of being nonsensical. Therefore, it's reasonable to posit some sort of primal order rather than a formless void.
Felix wrote: ↑November 27th, 2019, 4:46 pm
Leibniz1699: I just feel that the conventional notion of freedom is incorrect and based on Anthropomorphism. Purely free actions must have no cause or reason. They must be purely random and spontaneous without external influence.
We can't avoid being anthropomorphic, order and chaos are human concepts, and from our perspective, order cannot come from chaos anymore than something can come from nothing. Although such is possible it's unlikely to the point of being nonsensical. Therefore, it's reasonable to posit some sort of primal order rather than a formless void.
When I discuss existence as a whole I am referring to literally everything not just matter, energy, and spacetime. Qualities, patterns, apparent physical laws, dimensions, realms, abstractions, qualia, processes and anything thing else are also included in the complete definition of existence.
Any answer that points to another thing as the reason or cause of these things would just be another thing and therefore cannot logically be the answer as the question was why do all these things exist in the first place and in the
Felix wrote: ↑November 27th, 2019, 4:46 pm
Leibniz1699: I just feel that the conventional notion of freedom is incorrect and based on Anthropomorphism. Purely free actions must have no cause or reason. They must be purely random and spontaneous without external influence.
We can't avoid being anthropomorphic, order and chaos are human concepts, and from our perspective, order cannot come from chaos anymore than something can come from nothing. Although such is possible it's unlikely to the point of being nonsensical. Therefore, it's reasonable to posit some sort of primal order rather than a formless void.
When I discuss existence as a whole I am referring to literally everything not just matter, energy, space, and time. Qualities, patterns, apparent physical laws, dimensions, realms, abstractions, qualia, processes and anything else are also included in the complete definition of existence.
Any answer that points to another thing as the reason or cause of these things would just be another thing and therefore cannot logically be the answer as the question was why do all these things exist in the first place and in the particular way they do. The answer must logically be that there is no answer and that literally is the answer. This means that all existence just exists the way it does for no reason and has no cause for doing what it does.
Ultimate ensemble theories whether they are String Theory or Yahweh and beyond (even if proven true) cannot logically be the ultimate answer as again they are just mere things regardless of how grandiose or awe inspiring they may seem. All of these things would also be empty manifestations from nowhere without any metanarrative or ultimate nature as they would just be more things. Because existence is an eternal brute fact its behavior as a whole is statistically random and indeterminate due to there being no backdoor external factors pulling the strings.
Actualized reality is an infinitesimal slice out of an eternal superposition of infinitely many potential states all statistically equal to each other in probability. This superposition isn't even a thing proper but rather a way to logically conceptualize the brute fact of ex nihilo into something comprehendable.