So then "just matter configured in different packets" would be saying the same thing to you (re fields)?Greta wrote: ↑January 30th, 2020, 6:42 pmYou speak of "matter" and "energy" as though they were different things, which flies in the face of Einstein - and is thus incoherent.Terrapin Station wrote: ↑January 30th, 2020, 4:35 pm
"Just energy" is incoherent. Energy only makes sense as relative motion of matter.
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Do you stand by your (incoherent) claim that energy and matter are different parts of reality rather than fundamentally the same thing (energy)?Terrapin Station wrote: ↑January 30th, 2020, 6:44 pmSo then "just matter configured in different packets" would be saying the same thing to you (re fields)?
As for your question, it's akin to asking if the terms "grains of sand" and "beach" are interchangeable.
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So then it's the same thing to you.Greta wrote: ↑January 30th, 2020, 7:18 pmDo you stand by your (incoherent) claim that energy and matter are different parts of reality rather than fundamentally the same thing (energy)?Terrapin Station wrote: ↑January 30th, 2020, 6:44 pm
So then "just matter configured in different packets" would be saying the same thing to you (re fields)?
As for your question, it's akin to asking if the terms "grains of sand" and "beach" are interchangeable.
"Rather than fundamentally the same thing (matter)" would do just as well, right?
In any event, I don't agree that matter and energy are the same thing. That's not to say that I think they're "different parts of reality" either. Rather, energy supervenes on the relative motion of matter. No relative motion of matter = no energy. So you can't have energy without matter. It's not logically impossible to have matter without energy, but contingently, it seems like all matter has energy.
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