Who dies at the moment of death?

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Re: Who dies at the moment of death?

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Sculptor1 wrote: August 16th, 2020, 12:23 pm
evolution wrote: August 16th, 2020, 3:16 am No one dies at the, so called, "moment of death".

The human body just stops breathing and pumping blood, and just keeps continually changing in shape and form. The human body never disappearing nor dying. Just, still, changing, or transforming.

The person never 'dies' neither. The person, however, stops changing, or as I say; Stops becoming anew. See, people do not become older, they just become newer. A person just stops becoming newer when the brain stops functioning about the time when the body stops breathing and stops pumping blood,
So nothing important would happen if you vented your arteries today?
There are so many clarifying questions needed to be answered by 'you' first, before I could answer this properly and correctly, to and for 'you'.

1. What do you mean by 'important'?
2. 'Important' in relation to 'who', exactly?
3. 'Important' relative to 'what', exactly?
4. What do 'you' mean by 'your' arteries?
5. 'Who' is the 'you', which supposedly has 'its' arteries?

But, if 'you' really want to know my views on this, then 'me', (or a 'you'), can NOT 'vent its arteries'. The 'me', or the 'you', does not have 'its' arteries. The body, however, has arteries within it. The 'me', though, can instruct the body to release, or vent, the blood from the arteries within it. The body would then eventually just run out of blood, and would eventually stop breathing as well. The brain would also stop functioning. The body would then just do what is called and general known as 'decay'. But the body would still exist within this Universe in the same state that it always has, that is; in a state of continually changing in shape and form. Just now in would be another or different shape or form known as a 'decaying form' and not in what is known as a 'living form. The 'me' just stops doing what it does, that is; it has just stopped 'thinking and feeling' (emotionally). Therefore, there could NOT be any thing 'important' to 'me', as 'i' have stopped 'thinking' and 'feeling' (emotionally). However, to the family, friends, and/or associates of 'me', or just this 'one', then maybe to some of them some thing 'important' might be happening, but this is something that only they could tell 'you'.

Although the 'me' has obviously not gone to some other place, just like the body also can NOT go to some other place, the 'me', however, does not "hang around" like the body does, physically. What 'i' have 'caused' will obviously leave an everlasting 'effect' on "others" and things, and so in some small sense 'i' will exist forever more, just like EVERY 'one' of 'you' has and does. But, 'i' do not exist anymore in the sense that 'i' am able to now look at and see things anymore, and so 'i' can NOT obtain more or newer views, thoughts and so obviously can NOT pass them on anymore. The impressions that 'i' have made in, and on, "others" can, however, be seen in them, forever more. This, again, goes for absolutely EVERY 'one' "else" also.

Any or all of this can be explained much further, if needed to be.
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Re: Who dies at the moment of death?

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evolution wrote: August 20th, 2020, 7:58 pm
Sculptor1 wrote: August 16th, 2020, 12:23 pm
So nothing important would happen if you vented your arteries today?
There are so many clarifying questions needed to be answered by 'you' first, before I could answer this properly and correctly, to and for 'you'.

1. What do you mean by 'important'?
2. 'Important' in relation to 'who', exactly?
3. 'Important' relative to 'what', exactly?
4. What do 'you' mean by 'your' arteries?
5. 'Who' is the 'you', which supposedly has 'its' arteries?

But, if 'you' really want to know my views on this, then 'me', (or a 'you'), can NOT 'vent its arteries'. The 'me', or the 'you', does not have 'its' arteries. The body, however, has arteries within it. The 'me', though, can instruct the body to release, or vent, the blood from the arteries within it. The body would then eventually just run out of blood, and would eventually stop breathing as well. The brain would also stop functioning. The body would then just do what is called and general known as 'decay'. But the body would still exist within this Universe in the same state that it always has, that is; in a state of continually changing in shape and form. Just now in would be another or different shape or form known as a 'decaying form' and not in what is known as a 'living form. The 'me' just stops doing what it does, that is; it has just stopped 'thinking and feeling' (emotionally). Therefore, there could NOT be any thing 'important' to 'me', as 'i' have stopped 'thinking' and 'feeling' (emotionally). However, to the family, friends, and/or associates of 'me', or just this 'one', then maybe to some of them some thing 'important' might be happening, but this is something that only they could tell 'you'.

Although the 'me' has obviously not gone to some other place, just like the body also can NOT go to some other place, the 'me', however, does not "hang around" like the body does, physically. What 'i' have 'caused' will obviously leave an everlasting 'effect' on "others" and things, and so in some small sense 'i' will exist forever more, just like EVERY 'one' of 'you' has and does. But, 'i' do not exist anymore in the sense that 'i' am able to now look at and see things anymore, and so 'i' can NOT obtain more or newer views, thoughts and so obviously can NOT pass them on anymore. The impressions that 'i' have made in, and on, "others" can, however, be seen in them, forever more. This, again, goes for absolutely EVERY 'one' "else" also.

Any or all of this can be explained much further, if needed to be.
Just do it.
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Re: Who dies at the moment of death?

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Sculptor1 wrote: August 21st, 2020, 4:08 am
evolution wrote: August 20th, 2020, 7:58 pm

There are so many clarifying questions needed to be answered by 'you' first, before I could answer this properly and correctly, to and for 'you'.

1. What do you mean by 'important'?
2. 'Important' in relation to 'who', exactly?
3. 'Important' relative to 'what', exactly?
4. What do 'you' mean by 'your' arteries?
5. 'Who' is the 'you', which supposedly has 'its' arteries?

But, if 'you' really want to know my views on this, then 'me', (or a 'you'), can NOT 'vent its arteries'. The 'me', or the 'you', does not have 'its' arteries. The body, however, has arteries within it. The 'me', though, can instruct the body to release, or vent, the blood from the arteries within it. The body would then eventually just run out of blood, and would eventually stop breathing as well. The brain would also stop functioning. The body would then just do what is called and general known as 'decay'. But the body would still exist within this Universe in the same state that it always has, that is; in a state of continually changing in shape and form. Just now in would be another or different shape or form known as a 'decaying form' and not in what is known as a 'living form. The 'me' just stops doing what it does, that is; it has just stopped 'thinking and feeling' (emotionally). Therefore, there could NOT be any thing 'important' to 'me', as 'i' have stopped 'thinking' and 'feeling' (emotionally). However, to the family, friends, and/or associates of 'me', or just this 'one', then maybe to some of them some thing 'important' might be happening, but this is something that only they could tell 'you'.

Although the 'me' has obviously not gone to some other place, just like the body also can NOT go to some other place, the 'me', however, does not "hang around" like the body does, physically. What 'i' have 'caused' will obviously leave an everlasting 'effect' on "others" and things, and so in some small sense 'i' will exist forever more, just like EVERY 'one' of 'you' has and does. But, 'i' do not exist anymore in the sense that 'i' am able to now look at and see things anymore, and so 'i' can NOT obtain more or newer views, thoughts and so obviously can NOT pass them on anymore. The impressions that 'i' have made in, and on, "others" can, however, be seen in them, forever more. This, again, goes for absolutely EVERY 'one' "else" also.

Any or all of this can be explained much further, if needed to be.
Just do it.
Okay, but there is no rush, is there?
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Re: Who dies at the moment of death?

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evolution wrote: August 23rd, 2020, 7:19 am
Sculptor1 wrote: August 21st, 2020, 4:08 am
Just do it.
Okay, but there is no rush, is there?
No. But why wait and inflict your angst and confusion on the thread?
Are you hoping for an answer? Because you do not seem to be open to listen for one.
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Re: Who dies at the moment of death?

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Sculptor1 wrote: August 23rd, 2020, 9:26 am
evolution wrote: August 23rd, 2020, 7:19 am

Okay, but there is no rush, is there?
No.
Okay great. So we can both just wait patiently, and then see what eventually will come about, correct?
Sculptor1 wrote: August 23rd, 2020, 9:26 am But why wait and inflict your angst and confusion on the thread?
But I have NO angst NOR confusion to inflict on this thread, nor to inflict anywhere else either. Other than the confusion that comes in learning how to communicate with human beings better.

What I am waiting for is for those who are Truly OPEN and curios to come forward and REVEAL themselves.
Sculptor1 wrote: August 23rd, 2020, 9:26 am Are you hoping for an answer?
No, other than the answer to HOW to actually draw back out the curiosity and OPENNESS that is within ALL human beings to how they were at the birth of ALL of 'you', human beings.
Sculptor1 wrote: August 23rd, 2020, 9:26 am Because you do not seem to be open to listen for one.
If that is what it seems to you, then that is what it is.

What do you think 'it' is, which I supposedly am NOT open to listening to, EXACTLY.

Just say it, as you actually mean it, and then I can and will not just listen to it but it will be HERE for ALL of us to SEE as well.
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evolution wrote: August 23rd, 2020, 6:21 pm
Sculptor1 wrote: August 23rd, 2020, 9:26 am

No.
Okay great. So we can both just wait patiently, and then see what eventually will come about, correct?
Sculptor1 wrote: August 23rd, 2020, 9:26 am But why wait and inflict your angst and confusion on the thread?
But I have NO angst NOR confusion to inflict on this thread, nor to inflict anywhere else either. Other than the confusion that comes in learning how to communicate with human beings better.

What I am waiting for is for those who are Truly OPEN and curios to come forward and REVEAL themselves.
Sculptor1 wrote: August 23rd, 2020, 9:26 am Are you hoping for an answer?
No, other than the answer to HOW to actually draw back out the curiosity and OPENNESS that is within ALL human beings to how they were at the birth of ALL of 'you', human beings.
Sculptor1 wrote: August 23rd, 2020, 9:26 am Because you do not seem to be open to listen for one.
If that is what it seems to you, then that is what it is.

What do you think 'it' is, which I supposedly am NOT open to listening to, EXACTLY.

Just say it, as you actually mean it, and then I can and will not just listen to it but it will be HERE for ALL of us to SEE as well.
Since you say you don't matter, then I'm not sure why I'm spending the time on you.
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Sculptor1 wrote: August 24th, 2020, 7:01 am
evolution wrote: August 23rd, 2020, 6:21 pm

Okay great. So we can both just wait patiently, and then see what eventually will come about, correct?



But I have NO angst NOR confusion to inflict on this thread, nor to inflict anywhere else either. Other than the confusion that comes in learning how to communicate with human beings better.

What I am waiting for is for those who are Truly OPEN and curios to come forward and REVEAL themselves.



No, other than the answer to HOW to actually draw back out the curiosity and OPENNESS that is within ALL human beings to how they were at the birth of ALL of 'you', human beings.



If that is what it seems to you, then that is what it is.

What do you think 'it' is, which I supposedly am NOT open to listening to, EXACTLY.

Just say it, as you actually mean it, and then I can and will not just listen to it but it will be HERE for ALL of us to SEE as well.
Since you say you don't matter, then I'm not sure why I'm spending the time on you.
Adult human beings do seem to have a tendency to start wondering these such things only after they are NOT will to Truly look at and question what is being pointed out to them, like as evidenced above, or when they do not like to answer the actual clarifying questions posed to them.
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evolution wrote: August 28th, 2020, 8:21 am
Sculptor1 wrote: August 24th, 2020, 7:01 am
Since you say you don't matter, then I'm not sure why I'm spending the time on you.
Adult human beings do seem to have a tendency to start wondering these such things only after they are NOT will to Truly look at and question what is being pointed out to them, like as evidenced above, or when they do not like to answer the actual clarifying questions posed to them.
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Who dies at the moment of death, that which dies is an identity that was bestowed upon a non-entity from the context of its environment, and from there the history of that non-entity from the caresses and blows of a life lived, it claims its I.
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