Exploring The Human Conscious Light Screen

[SteveKlinko]

I think this would be better phrased as an argument about consciousness in general rather than the “conscious light screen” because there is no use arguing about something we “know nothing about”.

That Conscious Light Screen is always there Embedded in the front of your face showing you what's happening in the External World. We completely know that, but it must be Explained.

[SteveKlinko]

We do not See things in the external World, but rather we Detect things by using ...

Oh dear. Better to rely on scientific evidence instead of fabricating useless ideas.

I guess you don't know it is Science that tells us we only Detect things and that we don't really See the actual things in the way most people think they do.

[Vita]

I think this would be better phrased as an argument about consciousness in general rather than the “conscious light screen” because there is no use arguing about something we “know nothing about”.

That Conscious Light Screen is always there Embedded in the front of your face showing you what's happening in the External World. We completely know that, but it must be Explained.

So is it the consciousness your eyes experience? What needs explanation there?

[stevie]

We do not See things in the external World, but rather we Detect things by using ...

Oh dear. Better to rely on scientific evidence instead of fabricating useless ideas.

I guess you don't know it is Science that tells us we only Detect things and that we don't really See the actual things in the way most people think they do.

That's nonsense because "we don't really See the actual things in the way most people think they do." is a speculative philosophical view but there is no scientific evidence that this view is correct.

[Atla]

We do not See things in the external World, but rather we Detect things by using ...

Oh dear. Better to rely on scientific evidence instead of fabricating useless ideas.

I guess you don't know it is Science that tells us we only Detect things and that we don't really See the actual things in the way most people think they do.

That's nonsense because "we don't really See the actual things in the way most people think they do." is a speculative philosophical view but there is no scientific evidence that this view is correct.

It's well-known that scientific evidence (and also psychology) support the view that we don't directly "see" the outside world, instead we "see" the inside of our heads.

[stevie]

Oh dear. Better to rely on scientific evidence instead of fabricating useless ideas.

I guess you don't know it is Science that tells us we only Detect things and that we don't really See the actual things in the way most people think they do.

That's nonsense because "we don't really See the actual things in the way most people think they do." is a speculative philosophical view but there is no scientific evidence that this view is correct.

It's well-known that scientific evidence (and also psychology) support the view that we don't directly "see" the outside world, instead we "see" the inside of our heads.

You are fabricating a speculation which is even worse and more nonsensical. He speculated "we don't really See the actual things in the way most people think they do" and you even dare to say "we "see" the inside of our heads." which is incredibly .

[SteveKlinko]

I think this would be better phrased as an argument about consciousness in general rather than the “conscious light screen” because there is no use arguing about something we “know nothing about”.

That Conscious Light Screen is always there Embedded in the front of your face showing you what's happening in the External World. We completely know that, but it must be Explained.

So is it the consciousness your eyes experience? What needs explanation there?

The Conscious Light Screen needs to be Explained. If you reject the existence of the CLS then we are at an Impasse.

[SteveKlinko]

We do not See things in the external World, but rather we Detect things by using ...

Oh dear. Better to rely on scientific evidence instead of fabricating useless ideas.

I guess you don't know it is Science that tells us we only Detect things and that we don't really See the actual things in the way most people think they do.

That's nonsense because "we don't really See the actual things in the way most people think they do." is a speculative philosophical view but there is no scientific evidence that this view is correct.

We are at an Impasse on this then.

[Atla]

I guess you don't know it is Science that tells us we only Detect things and that we don't really See the actual things in the way most people think they do.

That's nonsense because "we don't really See the actual things in the way most people think they do." is a speculative philosophical view but there is no scientific evidence that this view is correct.

It's well-known that scientific evidence (and also psychology) support the view that we don't directly "see" the outside world, instead we "see" the inside of our heads.

You are fabricating a speculation which is even worse and more nonsensical. He speculated "we don't really See the actual things in the way most people think they do" and you even dare to say "we "see" the inside of our heads." which is incredibly .

So you know nothing about for example the neuroscience of perception, yet you always go on and on about how scientific minded you are? Or for example you know nothing about haluucinations and psychoses?

I always find your comments very amusing. What's wrong with you?

[Vita]

I think this would be better phrased as an argument about consciousness in general rather than the “conscious light screen” because there is no use arguing about something we “know nothing about”.

That Conscious Light Screen is always there Embedded in the front of your face showing you what's happening in the External World. We completely know that, but it must be Explained.

So is it the consciousness your eyes experience? What needs explanation there?

The Conscious Light Screen needs to be Explained. If you reject the existence of the CLS then we are at an Impasse.

I don’t reject its existence. I just don’t understand:

1. Why it needs to be explained- saying it just does is not enough

2. Why it is different than the other four senses

3. Why it is not just your eyes transmitting light to your brain

[SteveKlinko]

That Conscious Light Screen is always there Embedded in the front of your face showing you what's happening in the External World. We completely know that, but it must be Explained.

So is it the consciousness your eyes experience? What needs explanation there?

The Conscious Light Screen needs to be Explained. If you reject the existence of the CLS then we are at an Impasse.

I don’t reject its existence. I just don’t understand:

1. Why it needs to be explained- saying it just does is not enough

2. Why it is different than the other four senses

3. Why it is not just your eyes transmitting light to your brain

I don't understand why you think something that floats in and is embedded in the front of your face needs no Explanation. To me it is an incredible realization. This CLS has been embedded in front of my face my whole life and I never noticed it. Any inquisitive Mind will be driven to ask: What is it? How does it get there? What process produces it for me? What is a good Scientific answer?

The other four Senses have their own characteristic peculiarities. Sound for example manifests as a Sphere of Sound all around our Heads. We can detect that a Sound is above, below, left, right or even behind us.

Do you seriously think that merely saying number 3 is an Explanation, or even a hint at an Explanation?

[Atla]

I don't understand why you think something that floats in and is embedded in the front of your face needs no Explanation. To me it is an incredible realization. This CLS has been embedded in front of my face my whole life and I never noticed it. Any inquisitive Mind will be driven to ask: What is it? How does it get there? What process produces it for me? What is a good Scientific answer?

The other four Senses have their own characteristic peculiarities. Sound for example manifests as a Sphere of Sound all around our Heads. We can detect that a Sound is above, below, left, right or even behind us.

Do you seriously think that merely saying number 3 is an Explanation, or even a hint at an Explanation?

You're "seeing" the inside of your head, there is no light screen imbedded in front of your face. For example that's why we can dream and hallucinate with closed eyes.

[SteveKlinko]

I don't understand why you think something that floats in and is embedded in the front of your face needs no Explanation. To me it is an incredible realization. This CLS has been embedded in front of my face my whole life and I never noticed it. Any inquisitive Mind will be driven to ask: What is it? How does it get there? What process produces it for me? What is a good Scientific answer?

The other four Senses have their own characteristic peculiarities. Sound for example manifests as a Sphere of Sound all around our Heads. We can detect that a Sound is above, below, left, right or even behind us.

Do you seriously think that merely saying number 3 is an Explanation, or even a hint at an Explanation?

You're "seeing" the inside of your head, there is no light screen imbedded in front of your face. For example that's why we can dream and hallucinate with closed eyes.

Remember that you see the background Noise on your CLS by closing your eyes, so you most certainly do see your CLS while Dreaming. Your CLS is what the Dream is projected onto. If you insist on saying "Inside Your Head" then you must admit the CLS is embedded somehow inside the front of your Head.

[Atla]

I don't understand why you think something that floats in and is embedded in the front of your face needs no Explanation. To me it is an incredible realization. This CLS has been embedded in front of my face my whole life and I never noticed it. Any inquisitive Mind will be driven to ask: What is it? How does it get there? What process produces it for me? What is a good Scientific answer?

The other four Senses have their own characteristic peculiarities. Sound for example manifests as a Sphere of Sound all around our Heads. We can detect that a Sound is above, below, left, right or even behind us.

Do you seriously think that merely saying number 3 is an Explanation, or even a hint at an Explanation?

You're "seeing" the inside of your head, there is no light screen imbedded in front of your face. For example that's why we can dream and hallucinate with closed eyes.

Remember that you see the background Noise on your CLS by closing your eyes, so you most certainly do see your CLS while Dreaming. Your CLS is what the Dream is projected onto. If you insist on saying "Inside Your Head" then you must admit the CLS is embedded somehow inside the front of your Head.

The dream isn't projected onto anything and there isn't anything embedded into the head, these are unnecessary assumptions.

[SteveKlinko]

I don't understand why you think something that floats in and is embedded in the front of your face needs no Explanation. To me it is an incredible realization. This CLS has been embedded in front of my face my whole life and I never noticed it. Any inquisitive Mind will be driven to ask: What is it? How does it get there? What process produces it for me? What is a good Scientific answer?

The other four Senses have their own characteristic peculiarities. Sound for example manifests as a Sphere of Sound all around our Heads. We can detect that a Sound is above, below, left, right or even behind us.

Do you seriously think that merely saying number 3 is an Explanation, or even a hint at an Explanation?

You're "seeing" the inside of your head, there is no light screen imbedded in front of your face. For example that's why we can dream and hallucinate with closed eyes.

Remember that you see the background Noise on your CLS by closing your eyes, so you most certainly do see your CLS while Dreaming. Your CLS is what the Dream is projected onto. If you insist on saying "Inside Your Head" then you must admit the CLS is embedded somehow inside the front of your Head.

The dream isn't projected onto anything and there isn't anything embedded into the head, these are unnecessary assumptions.

These are Observations and Realizations about the reality of it.