The beauty and peace of spatiotemporal presence itself will be with you, always, anywhere.
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The beauty and peace of spatiotemporal presence itself will be with you, always, anywhere.
By presence, I don't mean some 3D universe-wide now in the illusion of time, but rather a here-and-nowness in the much realer timeless spacetime. It is in one way a spatiotemporal present unique to one human being at one exact age in one exact moment at one exact place. It is in another way a shared unifying presence unifying all humans of all ages including all your past and future selves. It is in one way a presence you share with nobody, not even your so-called past and future selves; for it is in that sense that you are here and they are not here, and that you are now and they are not now; 'here' is where you are and 'now' is when you are. But in another way it is something you share with every other human being ever, past and present, and ever other conscious being anywhere and everywhere, including your past and future selves: Everyone, including your past and future selves, is in a here and now, and in that way the here-and-now is everywhere and everywhen. In that way, there is an undeniable omnipresence to it.
The opportunity to be more present in the present will be there for you. Always. Anywhere.
Your true self--meaning consciousness or conscious presence itself--will always be there with you because it is you.
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Re: The beauty and peace of spatiotemporal presence itself will be with you, always, anywhere.
It is no different from you trying to persuade: God is with you, always, anywhere.Scott wrote: ↑October 13th, 2022, 12:38 am Wherever and whenever you shall find yourself, the beauty and peace of presence itself will be with you, always, anywhere.
By presence, I don't mean some 3D universe-wide now in the illusion of time, but rather a here-and-nowness in the much realer timeless spacetime. It is in one way a spatiotemporal present unique to one human being at one exact age in one exact moment at one exact place. It is in another way a shared unifying presence unifying all humans of all ages including all your past and future selves. It is in one way a presence you share with nobody, not even your so-called past and future selves; for it is in that sense that you are here and they are not here, and that you are now and they are not now; 'here' is where you are and 'now' is when you are. But in another way it is something you share with every other human being ever, past and present, and ever other conscious being anywhere and everywhere, including your past and future selves: Everyone, including your past and future selves, is in a here and now, and in that way the here-and-now is everywhere and everywhen. In that way, there is an undeniable omnipresence to it.
The opportunity to be more present in the present will be there for you. Always. Anywhere.
Your true self--meaning consciousness or conscious presence itself--will always be there with you because it is you.
Should my reply be: Yes, No, Thanks, or Thanks but No Thanks?
What is your point?
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Re: The beauty and peace of spatiotemporal presence itself will be with you, always, anywhere.
Indeed, many definitions of the word "God" refer to something I know exists more than I know anything exists. Mostly, the only reason I typically wouldn't say "I believe in God" is because the word "God" itself is so equivocal.gad-fly wrote: ↑October 13th, 2022, 11:45 amIt is no different from you [saying]: God is with you, always, anywhere.Scott wrote: ↑October 13th, 2022, 12:38 am Wherever and whenever you shall find yourself, the beauty and peace of presence itself will be with you, always, anywhere.
By presence, I don't mean some 3D universe-wide now in the illusion of time, but rather a here-and-nowness in the much realer timeless spacetime. It is in one way a spatiotemporal present unique to one human being at one exact age in one exact moment at one exact place. It is in another way a shared unifying presence unifying all humans of all ages including all your past and future selves. It is in one way a presence you share with nobody, not even your so-called past and future selves; for it is in that sense that you are here and they are not here, and that you are now and they are not now; 'here' is where you are and 'now' is when you are. But in another way it is something you share with every other human being ever, past and present, and ever other conscious being anywhere and everywhere, including your past and future selves: Everyone, including your past and future selves, is in a here and now, and in that way the here-and-now is everywhere and everywhen. In that way, there is an undeniable omnipresence to it.
The opportunity to be more present in the present will be there for you. Always. Anywhere.
Your true self--meaning consciousness or conscious presence itself--will always be there with you because it is you.
A reasonable philosophical zombie cannot be persuaded, and a conscious person doesn't need to be.
"The mind is a wonderful servant but a terrible master."
I believe spiritual freedom (a.k.a. self-discipline) manifests as bravery, confidence, grace, honesty, love, and inner peace.
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You are missing my point. By saying : God is with you always, i am merely taking God to exemplify. I could have said: The devil is with you always, and so is loneliness, and so on.Scott wrote: ↑May 17th, 2023, 12:51 amIndeed, many definitions of the word "God" refer to something I know exists more than I know anything exists. Mostly, the only reason I typically wouldn't say "I believe in God" is because the word "God" itself is so equivocal.gad-fly wrote: ↑October 13th, 2022, 11:45 amIt is no different from you [saying]: God is with you, always, anywhere.Scott wrote: ↑October 13th, 2022, 12:38 am Wherever and whenever you shall find yourself, the beauty and peace of presence itself will be with you, always, anywhere.
By presence, I don't mean some 3D universe-wide now in the illusion of time, but rather a here-and-nowness in the much realer timeless spacetime. It is in one way a spatiotemporal present unique to one human being at one exact age in one exact moment at one exact place. It is in another way a shared unifying presence unifying all humans of all ages including all your past and future selves. It is in one way a presence you share with nobody, not even your so-called past and future selves; for it is in that sense that you are here and they are not here, and that you are now and they are not now; 'here' is where you are and 'now' is when you are. But in another way it is something you share with every other human being ever, past and present, and ever other conscious being anywhere and everywhere, including your past and future selves: Everyone, including your past and future selves, is in a here and now, and in that way the here-and-now is everywhere and everywhen. In that way, there is an undeniable omnipresence to it.
The opportunity to be more present in the present will be there for you. Always. Anywhere.
Your true self--meaning consciousness or conscious presence itself--will always be there with you because it is you.
A reasonable philosophical zombie cannot be persuaded, and a conscious person doesn't need to be.
Indeed, since your title has nothing to do with God, why should I change the subject?
Your title is more pep talk than philosophy. I can understand if your intention is to calm and comfort, like saying : The kingdom of heaven is at hand, without saying : Repent. Everyone stands up and clap hands. Rejoice. We, including this forum, shall live happily ever after.
Fair enough, if all you want is to cheer people up.
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Re: The beauty and peace of spatiotemporal presence itself will be with you, always, anywhere.
Indeed, if you are just reading and responding to only titles, your points will tend to be off-topic and misunderstood. Additionally, they will be in violation of Rule G.2. of the Forum Rules which requires to read all of the preceding posts before replying.
For the reasons explained in my earlier posts in the topic, it would be very different to say that presence itself is always with you than to say Santa Claus and unicorns are always with you.
However, for a better understanding of what I mean by presence itself, I suggest reading through these other topics in full:
- Your left is not the left. There is no "the left". Likewise, there is no "the past" or "the future". Time is not real.
- There is no objective now. If there are subjective nows, there's infinite ones equally existing across all of spacetime.
- There's no slice, chunk, or part of the universe that is 'now' versus not 'now' without you. There is no objective now.
- In the same sense leftness is not real, time is not real.
If you are still somehow seeing pep talks instead of philosophy even after reading those elaborations on what I men by presence itself, I suggest you then also read these topics:
- We see what we want to see, meaning what we choose to see.
- Perception is almost entirely a matter of projection.
Thank you,
Scott
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Can i say: The ugliness and turbulence of spatiotemporal presence will be with you? Can i say: you see what you do not want to see? For me, the latter appears to hold 9 out of 10 times. Worse for lucky draw.Scott wrote: ↑May 19th, 2023, 4:45 pmIndeed, if you are just reading and responding to only titles, your points will tend to be off-topic and misunderstood. Additionally, they will be in violation of Rule G.2. of the Forum Rules which requires to read all of the preceding posts before replying.
For the reasons explained in my earlier posts in the topic, it would be very different to say that presence itself is always with you than to say Santa Claus and unicorns are always with you.
However, for a better understanding of what I mean by presence itself, I suggest reading through these other topics in full:
- Your left is not the left. There is no "the left". Likewise, there is no "the past" or "the future". Time is not real.
- There is no objective now. If there are subjective nows, there's infinite ones equally existing across all of spacetime.
- There's no slice, chunk, or part of the universe that is 'now' versus not 'now' without you. There is no objective now.
- In the same sense leftness is not real, time is not real.
If you are still somehow seeing pep talks instead of philosophy even after reading those elaborations on what I men by presence itself, I suggest you then also read these topics:
- We see what we want to see, meaning what we choose to see.
- Perception is almost entirely a matter of projection.
Thank you,
Scott
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Re: The beauty and peace of spatiotemporal presence itself will be with you, always, anywhere.
You can say that, but you'd be speaking untruth. The reason, arguments, and evidence proving it would be untruth are in the following topics:
- We see what we want to see, meaning what we choose to see.
- Perception is almost entirely a matter of projection.
- Scientifically, the whole world you see is an obviously fake impossible world created by a brain in a dark quiet skull.
Thank you,
Scott
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