Finding the most ultimate, almighty, and eternal thing ever
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Finding the most ultimate, almighty, and eternal thing ever
Instead a better way to attain immortality and infinite power you must simply find the most total and ultimate thing ever that also happens to be eternal - and then live vicariously throught it and worship it. You would effectively identify with it. Like sports fans do with their favorite team.
The most ultimate and eternal 'thing' ever is the totality of all reality in its entirety. Why? Because in every possible scenario of existence the ultimate state of reality exists - forever. See my example below:
Hypothetical Scenario 1: No universe ever came into existence
Hypotherical Scenario 2: The current universe as it is
Hypothetical Scenario 3: A far future when the universe had died out and nothing exists anymore (like it was before)
Hypothetical Scenario 4: Something else
In all 4 scenarios one thing remains the same - the ultimate situation/state of reality. The ultimate way things are in their entirely. This is eternal and invincible - nothing can destroy it. It outlives everything and everything happens within it.
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Re: Finding the most ultimate, almighty, and eternal thing ever
Leibniz1699 wrote: ↑December 9th, 2022, 10:51 pm Humans want power and to live forever. But this is not realistic of course. Even the most powerful people ever will amount to effectively nothing in the end.
Instead a better way to attain immortality and infinite power you must simply find the most total and ultimate thing ever that also happens to be eternal - and then live vicariously throught it and worship it. You would effectively identify with it. Like sports fans do with their favorite team.
The most ultimate and eternal 'thing' ever is the totality of all reality in its entirety. Why? Because in every possible scenario of existence the ultimate state of reality exists - forever. See my example below:
Hypothetical Scenario 1: No universe ever came into existence
Hypotherical Scenario 2: The current universe as it is
Hypothetical Scenario 3: A far future when the universe had died out and nothing exists anymore (like it was before)
Hypothetical Scenario 4: Something else
In all 4 scenarios one thing remains the same - the ultimate situation/state of reality. The ultimate way things are in their entirely. This is eternal and invincible - nothing can destroy it. It outlives everything and everything happens within it.
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Re: Finding the most ultimate, almighty, and eternal thing ever
I definitely don't want to live forever and as to power, like money, avoiding a lack of it is way more important (to me) than an abundance of it.Leibniz1699 wrote: ↑December 9th, 2022, 10:51 pm Humans want power and and to live forever. But this is not realistic of course. Even the most powerful people ever will amount to effectively nothing in the end.
Instead a better way to attain immortality and infinite power you must simply find the most total and ultimate thing ever that also happens to be eternal - and then live vicariously throught it and worship it. You would effectively identify with it. Like sports fans do with their favorite team.
The most ultimate and eternal 'thing' ever is the totality of all reality in its entirety. Why? Because in every possible scenario of existence the ultimate state of reality exists - forever. See my example below:
Hypothetical Scenario 1: No universe ever came into existence
Hypotherical Scenario 2: The current universe as it is
Hypothetical Scenario 3: A far future when the universe had died out and nothing exists anymore (like it was before)
Hypothetical Scenario 4: Something else
In all 4 scenarios one thing remains the same - the ultimate situation/state of reality. The ultimate way things are in their entirely. This is eternal and invincible - nothing can destroy it. It outlives everything and everything happens within it.
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Re: Finding the most ultimate, almighty, and eternal thing ever
If your chain of logic is true, then to live vicariously through reality and worship reality, could be to simply live and die as a product of reality itself.Leibniz1699 wrote: ↑December 9th, 2022, 10:51 pm Humans want power and and to live forever. But this is not realistic of course. Even the most powerful people ever will amount to effectively nothing in the end.
Instead a better way to attain immortality and infinite power you must simply find the most total and ultimate thing ever that also happens to be eternal - and then live vicariously throught it and worship it. You would effectively identify with it. Like sports fans do with their favorite team.
The most ultimate and eternal 'thing' ever is the totality of all reality in its entirety. Why? Because in every possible scenario of existence the ultimate state of reality exists - forever. See my example below:
Hypothetical Scenario 1: No universe ever came into existence
Hypotherical Scenario 2: The current universe as it is
Hypothetical Scenario 3: A far future when the universe had died out and nothing exists anymore (like it was before)
Hypothetical Scenario 4: Something else
In all 4 scenarios one thing remains the same - the ultimate situation/state of reality. The ultimate way things are in their entirely. This is eternal and invincible - nothing can destroy it. It outlives everything and everything happens within it.
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Re: Finding the most ultimate, almighty, and eternal thing ever
On the other hand, we can approach the subject this way. One can separate reality into two parts—the self and the external world (anything that isn't the self). So perhaps a better way for the self to embrace reality is not just to exist as a part of it, but to merge with reality completely via "becoming the external world" and thus making the boundary between the self and the external world disappear.Leibniz1699 wrote: ↑December 9th, 2022, 10:51 pm Humans want power and and to live forever. But this is not realistic of course. Even the most powerful people ever will amount to effectively nothing in the end.
Instead a better way to attain immortality and infinite power you must simply find the most total and ultimate thing ever that also happens to be eternal - and then live vicariously throught it and worship it. You would effectively identify with it. Like sports fans do with their favorite team.
The most ultimate and eternal 'thing' ever is the totality of all reality in its entirety. Why? Because in every possible scenario of existence the ultimate state of reality exists - forever. See my example below:
Hypothetical Scenario 1: No universe ever came into existence
Hypotherical Scenario 2: The current universe as it is
Hypothetical Scenario 3: A far future when the universe had died out and nothing exists anymore (like it was before)
Hypothetical Scenario 4: Something else
In all 4 scenarios one thing remains the same - the ultimate situation/state of reality. The ultimate way things are in their entirely. This is eternal and invincible - nothing can destroy it. It outlives everything and everything happens within it.
With that said, what do you think of the idea that "the less we are ourselves, the more we are the external world"? Do you think the concept of "we" turns into the external world during the process of "ourselves being less of ourselves" (that is caused by, say, death), or do you think the concept of "we" disappears during the process? Or do you think the two instances are really the same?
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Re: Finding the most ultimate, almighty, and eternal thing ever
1. Universe will exist forever.
2. The most precious and powerful entity in our life is Love.
Best regards,
MLunardini.
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