The total reality

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amorphos_ii
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The total reality

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The total reality

I thought I would go on a tangent from this notion here:

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...and ask; what is the ‘empty canvas’, which has been touched upon many a time I know, but here I am simply asking, what is photograph of ‘the total reality’ revealing to us? i.e. as taken by the set of too many cameras taking pictures of a single aluminium particle in mid space, such that the world cannot draw itself.

We have subjects: a given subjective perspective view/an observer/information. Can be human or camera in this experiment.

Then a collection of subjects. e.g. the complete set of cameras/observer views. e.g. upon a beach looking at the golden sunset as reflected upon the sea.

Collections of such collections [of observers and their views].

The totality of all collections and of all otherwise observers [in case there are any stragglers].

The total reality: the emptiness as when the world [of subjects] cannot be drawn; is equivalent to, the state of universe prior to motion/movement and observers/info.

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Given that reality must be everything which is possible >

three states of time beginning with infinite and finite, or unlimited and limited [has cardinality]. The eternal can be both a moment which continues forever without movement I.e not in manifest time et al.

Eternity type 1: A moment in time prior to movement which can continue for ever and until there is movement. If a single camera took a shot of the void left by the world not being able to draw itself, so one shot viewing the collection of all the cameras in the experiment.

Eternity type 2: the opposite of the above [type 1]. if the emptiness expanded into infinity and reached it. So beyond any expansion then. This would be the totality of everything in the universe and all of the subjective observer views [info], + across all of time probably the entire expansion and contraction or what have you.
Can have cardinality in terms of infinite sets, but I assume must mimic this...

The Finite/reality as with cardinal limits: Seams to me that the two eternity types are opposites, and thus there would be something betwixt the two, and that, that is the universe [finite movement].





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Sometimes it is easier to just visualise the whole thing as an object. Because reality cannot I think, be divided. There would be an increase and expansion of cardinality rather than absolute distinction.
If the object were a simple web, it would first become increasingly defined and then stretch until it expands beyond definition of its lines and joins. We could see the two states of eternity as the hands weaving and stretching the said web.
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That's an interesting objection, assuming it is one. Why did whoever said it say what s/he said? If someone tells me, in a solemn tone, that a feather is all and nothing more than a feather, what should I do?
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Agent Smyth wrote: April 2nd, 2023, 10:14 pm That's an interesting objection, assuming it is one. Why did whoever said it say what s/he said? If someone tells me, in a solemn tone, that a feather is all and nothing more than a feather, what should I do?
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Well the question here is which is the feather i.e. if you took a billion photo’s from as many perspectives, then which one is the feather. Moreover, after a while the image would be a blur of feather/s and not look like a feather et al. Then if you take to many views such that reality cannot draw the feather, then we just have an empty infinite space, which is not an infinity as one would image e.g. infinite space prior to universe. I mean to say that you could have an infinity that is ‘real’ like if the universe were infinite, but here we are talking about an infinity which is drawn [or not] like an imagined infinite line in maths.

Ergo the total reality of a thing is an infinite feather - let us say, but that is not an infinity as like a space prior to universe would be. Not even the same as an infinite set of red planets – because that would be real in the same way as infinite space and not real like an infinite observation of that or a given thing.
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