Universal values

[LuckyR]

Well, you get an opinion, but if you're not Asian can you understand that Asians might not share your opinion and that on this subject matter that theirs is more important than yours?

Yes, still eagerly awaiting a reply by the author of the topic @Xuanchangwei or others.

You did not answer my question however: Why would the term Oriental offend people in Asia in your opinion or why would it not be a compliment?

Well folks in Asia don't primarily speak English so I'm not sure they know or care about what English word is used to describe them, between the two. I was referring to Asian Americans.

As to the term Oriental, which means "east" or "eastern", if you think about it the continent of Asia is towards the east when viewed from Europe, thus is considered Euro centric. The term Asian is, obviously Asia centric.

[Pattern-chaser]

Well, you get an opinion, but if you're not Asian can you understand that Asians might not share your opinion and that on this subject matter that theirs is more important than yours?

You did not answer my question however: Why would the term Oriental offend people in Asia in your opinion or why would it not be a compliment?

It is my understanding that LuckyR did answer your question. See the text I have highlighted.

[value]

Well folks in Asia don't primarily speak English so I'm not sure they know or care about what English word is used to describe them, between the two. I was referring to Asian Americans.

I recently watched the following video that might provide an insight into what you mean. However, does it result in a situation in which any reference to Asian heritage offends Asian Americans in principle, in your opinion?

As to the term Oriental, which means "east" or "eastern", if you think about it the continent of Asia is towards the east when viewed from Europe, thus is considered Euro centric. The term Asian is, obviously Asia centric.

Would people in Europe or the US possibly be offended by the reference 'Westerner' when used by people of Asia?

[LuckyR]

Well folks in Asia don't primarily speak English so I'm not sure they know or care about what English word is used to describe them, between the two. I was referring to Asian Americans.

I recently watched the following video that might provide an insight into what you mean. However, does it result in a situation in which any reference to Asian heritage offends Asian Americans in principle, in your opinion?

As to the term Oriental, which means "east" or "eastern", if you think about it the continent of Asia is towards the east when viewed from Europe, thus is considered Euro centric. The term Asian is, obviously Asia centric.

Would people in Europe or the US possibly be offended by the reference 'Westerner' when used by people of Asia?

Kudos to you for seeking out and posting additional information. She does briefly mention the "good at math" thing. So not a direct reference but nibbling at the edges of the thread's subject matter. I think her (technically unspoken) message is that references to heritage is perfectly fine when everyone's heritage is the subject matter, but is a "micro aggression" when individuals are singled out for commentary.

I don't live in Asia, but if you think about it, from the perspective of Asia, North Americans are Oriental (to their east).

[Sy Borg]

I don't live in Asia, but if you think about it, from the perspective of Asia, North Americans are Oriental (to their east).

That's a good example of bias. Another is the northern hemisphere being 'up' and the southern hemisphere being 'down', something that is probably more apparent to those of us living in the south. Morality too, which is deeply anthropocentric.

[value]

I recently watched a time travel movie staring police officers in the year 1988 and when one of the officers suggested to eat Oriental the other corrected it with the notion "You know, I think you are supposed to say Asian now." with the other replying "Okies. Asian it is.".

It seems to confirm that it is culturally acknowledged that the reference Oriental is considered offensive in the US since as early as 1988.

Film: In the Shadow of the Moon
Position: 1:38:20
https://www.netflix.com/watch/80231903