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Re: Moral dilemma. Who's fault is it?

Post by Steve3007 » October 18th, 2018, 4:21 am

No, no, sad, no.

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Re: Moral dilemma. Who's fault is it?

Post by Pages » October 18th, 2018, 5:57 am

Burning ghost wrote:
October 18th, 2018, 3:37 am
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That is a good point. The saying about the road to evil being pathed with good intentions highlights this.

People can certainly be given too much “help.” How we judge this comes with personal experience and careful observation. I still wouldn’t see any blame on teh part of buying someone a taxi (although I would expect the person to reimburse me in some way because I don’t believe in complete charity - unless it’s a small thing or mrely giviing someone time and attention.) If he then died I certainly wouldn’t expect his family to pay me back in any way, nor would I feel guilty unless I knew he couldn’t drive or that the taxi was a death trap.

Just because we cannot predict future ourcomes it doesn’t mean we should do nothing. We will make mistakes so better to recognise them and then build wisdom. We’re limited beings.
Wow! I never thought that was what that quote meant.
I guess then we should do good that has no obvious danger that comes with it.
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Re: Moral dilemma. Who's fault is it?

Post by Burning ghost » October 18th, 2018, 6:24 am

Fools rush in where angels fear to tread is another similar saying. Both warn, in part, about the dangers of ignorance/naivety.

This doesn’t mean that intentions are irrelevant though!
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Re: Moral dilemma. Who's fault is it?

Post by Burning ghost » October 18th, 2018, 6:29 am

Pages wrote:
October 18th, 2018, 5:57 am
Burning ghost wrote:
October 18th, 2018, 3:37 am
Pages -

That is a good point. The saying about the road to evil being pathed with good intentions highlights this.

People can certainly be given too much “help.” How we judge this comes with personal experience and careful observation. I still wouldn’t see any blame on teh part of buying someone a taxi (although I would expect the person to reimburse me in some way because I don’t believe in complete charity - unless it’s a small thing or mrely giviing someone time and attention.) If he then died I certainly wouldn’t expect his family to pay me back in any way, nor would I feel guilty unless I knew he couldn’t drive or that the taxi was a death trap.

Just because we cannot predict future ourcomes it doesn’t mean we should do nothing. We will make mistakes so better to recognise them and then build wisdom. We’re limited beings.
Wow! I never thought that was what that quote meant.
I guess then we should do good that has no obvious danger that comes with it.
Morality is a nightmare.
Not necessarily. Sometimes you may judge that risking some level of possible suffering may prevent a greater level of suffering (it is likely those very thoughts are what drive many despots on to do what they do - a kind of self-delusion that builds up so much momentum they see no choice other than to see through their original thought.)
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Re: Moral dilemma. Who's fault is it?

Post by Burning ghost » October 18th, 2018, 6:30 am

Counter sayings would be “fortune favourd the bold”

Most, if not all, aphorisms have a contrary argument.
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Re: Moral dilemma. Who's fault is it?

Post by Pages » October 19th, 2018, 7:32 am

Eduk wrote:
October 18th, 2018, 4:13 am
I've often heard the phrase the path to hell is paved with good intentions. But I never took that in a straight forward manner. For example it could mean that anyone can say they meant well even when they didn't. Or it could mean that someone genuinely meant well but was grossly negligent and should have known better. A bit like the difference between murder and manslaughter. Also it could be making the point that actions speak louder than words, as in you may have intended well but you were idle.
I don't think the path to hell is paved with reasonable and sincere and hard working good intentions.
Living itself is a risk. There are no risk-free actions no matter how well, reasonable, sincere and hard they're thought
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Re: Moral dilemma. Who's fault is it?

Post by Pages » October 19th, 2018, 7:42 am

I think one can only just do the best one can in not being lazy to think about obvious dangers and then just do... Then hope for the best.
How one can be convinced that one has really thought things through would depend on one's ability to even be capable of a reasonable thinking in the first place. I think it is a very difficult thing,if not impossible for that quote to be refuted
Two possibilities exist... Either we are alone in the universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.
- Arthur C. Clarke

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