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Re: Is Mercy Reverse Injustice or Reverse-d Injustice?

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salah wrote: October 20th, 2019, 3:50 pm Could you as English speakers give me the difference between "Reverse Injustice" and "Reversed Injustice"?.
The connection between mercy and justice is as follows. Justice relates to the degrees to which a man can understand and act upon equality, fairness, liberty, freedom, reason,and knowledge.Reason and knowledge are prerequisites for equality, fairness, and freedom for without reason and knowledge a man's capacity for judgement is impaired.

Mercy follows upon judgement which is reasoned and knowledgeable. The more a man knows and understands about himself and the other the more he will be inclined to be merciful to the other.

Injustice is an evaluation. Since no man's judgement is perfect there will always be a measure of injustice in any evaluation. Injustice is relative absence of justice. It follows that a judgement with a bias towards mercy is a safer judgement.

Neither 'Reverse Injustice' nor 'Reversed Injustice' make sense in English. 'Reversed Injustice' sounds something like the overturning of a previous legal verdict however it's not a phrase I have ever heard or read in any context.
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Re: Is Mercy Reverse Injustice or Reverse-d Injustice?

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@Belindi. You never heard or read about "Reversed Injustice" but did you ever heard or read "Reversed" alone without the word "Injustice". Reversed Injustice means that the Merciful is already Unjust but against himself. I know you never heard or read about Reversed Injustice but I think you may heard or read about "Reversed".
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LuckyR wrote: October 20th, 2019, 1:07 am
h_k_s wrote: October 19th, 2019, 8:57 pm

You're never "outside the legal system" unless you are on a deserted island not claimed by any Nation.
Technically true, yet from a practical standpoint, ridiculous. Very, very few would call the police for a workplace spat. The legal system provides no practical justice for the victim. His (your) options are: get no justice or provide for your own justice. I choose the latter, anyone is free to choose the former.
In a workplace you have the H/R dept. at your assistance.

But even then nothing is stopping anyone from calling the police.

The police's responsibility is to investigate complaints. If you have a complaint then you call the police.

The next step is then criminal court, followed by civil court.

In most cases to initiate the process you must call the police. Otherwise nothing happens. Same as with a dented fender on your car.
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salah wrote: October 21st, 2019, 9:04 am @Belindi. You never heard or read about "Reversed Injustice" but did you ever heard or read "Reversed" alone without the word "Injustice". Reversed Injustice means that the Merciful is already Unjust but against himself. I know you never heard or read about Reversed Injustice but I think you may heard or read about
I understand now what you mean by "Reversed Injustice"Belindi

However the merciful man is never unjust to himself because no man has a natural right to justice
Justice is an aim and activity of men .
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Re: Is Mercy Reverse Injustice or Reverse-d Injustice?

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h_k_s wrote: October 21st, 2019, 12:16 pm
LuckyR wrote: October 20th, 2019, 1:07 am

Technically true, yet from a practical standpoint, ridiculous. Very, very few would call the police for a workplace spat. The legal system provides no practical justice for the victim. His (your) options are: get no justice or provide for your own justice. I choose the latter, anyone is free to choose the former.
In a workplace you have the H/R dept. at your assistance.

But even then nothing is stopping anyone from calling the police.

The police's responsibility is to investigate complaints. If you have a complaint then you call the police.

The next step is then criminal court, followed by civil court.

In most cases to initiate the process you must call the police. Otherwise nothing happens. Same as with a dented fender on your car.
No change. Technically correct, except for the small detail that no one calls the police and if one seeks recourse through HR, one typically gets labeled as a troublemaker, not good for one's corporate reputation. No, from a practical standpoint this is an area best handled on one's own.
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LuckyR wrote: October 21st, 2019, 11:55 pm
h_k_s wrote: October 21st, 2019, 12:16 pm

In a workplace you have the H/R dept. at your assistance.

But even then nothing is stopping anyone from calling the police.

The police's responsibility is to investigate complaints. If you have a complaint then you call the police.

The next step is then criminal court, followed by civil court.

In most cases to initiate the process you must call the police. Otherwise nothing happens. Same as with a dented fender on your car.
No change. Technically correct, except for the small detail that no one calls the police and if one seeks recourse through HR, one typically gets labeled as a troublemaker, not good for one's corporate reputation. No, from a practical standpoint this is an area best handled on one's own.
It all depends on the offense.
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h_k_s wrote: October 24th, 2019, 3:12 pm
LuckyR wrote: October 21st, 2019, 11:55 pm

No change. Technically correct, except for the small detail that no one calls the police and if one seeks recourse through HR, one typically gets labeled as a troublemaker, not good for one's corporate reputation. No, from a practical standpoint this is an area best handled on one's own.
It all depends on the offense.
Very true. Luckily the vast majority of offenses in the office, on the sidewalk and on the schoolyard do not rise to the level where most would call the police (involve the Justice system). Thus the issue of vengeance vs turn the other cheek is way, way more common than leaving it to the formal Justice system. Again: what do you do? Nothing?
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LuckyR wrote: October 24th, 2019, 6:33 pm
h_k_s wrote: October 24th, 2019, 3:12 pm

It all depends on the offense.
Very true. Luckily the vast majority of offenses in the office, on the sidewalk and on the schoolyard do not rise to the level where most would call the police (involve the Justice system). Thus the issue of vengeance vs turn the other cheek is way, way more common than leaving it to the formal Justice system. Again: what do you do? Nothing?
You are speaking from your own past. These days with cell phones pervasive, it seems to me MORE people not less are calling the police MORE often not less.
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h_k_s wrote: October 25th, 2019, 1:14 pm
LuckyR wrote: October 24th, 2019, 6:33 pm

Very true. Luckily the vast majority of offenses in the office, on the sidewalk and on the schoolyard do not rise to the level where most would call the police (involve the Justice system). Thus the issue of vengeance vs turn the other cheek is way, way more common than leaving it to the formal Justice system. Again: what do you do? Nothing?
You are speaking from your own past. These days with cell phones pervasive, it seems to me MORE people not less are calling the police MORE often not less.
Well, it seems that way because video is featured on the news. However, both personal and property crimes have dropped every year since peaking between 1980 to 1990. So, no.
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Re: Is Mercy Reverse Injustice or Reverse-d Injustice?

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mercy is justice when if the person didn't do anything to deserve a fate, then we give them mercy. if we were unjust and the person did deserve the fate and we gave that person mercy then we are doing injustice. Justice needs comprehension the ability to judge and give the right decision, and rationality (in my def).
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