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"The Horror"

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Colonel Kurtz, A name synonymous with the degradation of Man. A walking tragedy in every aspect of his being.

I was watching a video on analysis of his personality and I cannot think of something more terrifying and that scares and disturbs me to the core of myself. I rocks my soul to an endless length and fascinates me like no other character has ever done before. His primary goal was to win the vietnam war, A war most people would say would be unwinnable. His way would be the way to win the war, I really do believe that. He would win the war but he and all of his men would lose everything else in there lives. They would have lost everything that makes them human.

The primary reason we did not fight well in that war was the people fighting it were trying to escape the war and they never embraced it. They did it through memories, Drugs, Sex and other ways. To truly win that war you have to become the embodiment of the war. The whole point of fighting a war is to win it. I really do believe that if we would have won those men would have lost everything else but the war.

You think the vets are **** up but that's nothing like it could really be. They wouldn't have been men anymore, Nothing that resembles a man. His goal was to make a Man human and inhuman at the same time. His goal was to make men into loving monsters but you cannot worship two masters. You can't have it both ways. You cannot hold on to your morality and be immoral at the same time.

Doing so would destroy you as it did that character. He is a man who held on to all the negativity in his life and it ate him. Totally consumed his being. He dwelled and thought back on it time and time again. He held on to it towards the very end.

What he tried to hold onto so dearly is what I want to rid myself of in my life, The Horror.
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Well, Apocalypse Now is at best an allegory, but more likely pure fiction as to it's relationship with the Vietnam war.
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SneakySniper179 wrote: March 8th, 2021, 8:22 pm Colonel Kurtz, A name synonymous with the degradation of Man. A walking tragedy in every aspect of his being.

I was watching a video on analysis of his personality and I cannot think of something more terrifying and that scares and disturbs me to the core of myself. I rocks my soul to an endless length and fascinates me like no other character has ever done before. His primary goal was to win the vietnam war, A war most people would say would be unwinnable. His way would be the way to win the war, I really do believe that. He would win the war but he and all of his men would lose everything else in there lives. They would have lost everything that makes them human.

The primary reason we did not fight well in that war was the people fighting it were trying to escape the war and they never embraced it. They did it through memories, Drugs, Sex and other ways. To truly win that war you have to become the embodiment of the war. The whole point of fighting a war is to win it. I really do believe that if we would have won those men would have lost everything else but the war.

You think the vets are **** up but that's nothing like it could really be. They wouldn't have been men anymore, Nothing that resembles a man. His goal was to make a Man human and inhuman at the same time. His goal was to make men into loving monsters but you cannot worship two masters. You can't have it both ways. You cannot hold on to your morality and be immoral at the same time.

Doing so would destroy you as it did that character. He is a man who held on to all the negativity in his life and it ate him. Totally consumed his being. He dwelled and thought back on it time and time again. He held on to it towards the very end.

What he tried to hold onto so dearly is what I want to rid myself of in my life, The Horror.
The remake comes from Joseph Conrad's The Heart of Darkness, a complex psychological novella whose time and place was at the cusp of the 19th and 20th centuries in the Congo. The horrors there perpetrated by the Europeans, especially the Belgians under King Leopold, makes Apocalypse Now into normal family entertainment. The main thing I recall about that film is that Marlon Brando as Kurtz was vastly overpaid.
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Tegularius wrote: March 9th, 2021, 6:29 am
SneakySniper179 wrote: March 8th, 2021, 8:22 pm Colonel Kurtz, A name synonymous with the degradation of Man. A walking tragedy in every aspect of his being.

I was watching a video on analysis of his personality and I cannot think of something more terrifying and that scares and disturbs me to the core of myself. I rocks my soul to an endless length and fascinates me like no other character has ever done before. His primary goal was to win the vietnam war, A war most people would say would be unwinnable. His way would be the way to win the war, I really do believe that. He would win the war but he and all of his men would lose everything else in there lives. They would have lost everything that makes them human.

The primary reason we did not fight well in that war was the people fighting it were trying to escape the war and they never embraced it. They did it through memories, Drugs, Sex and other ways. To truly win that war you have to become the embodiment of the war. The whole point of fighting a war is to win it. I really do believe that if we would have won those men would have lost everything else but the war.

You think the vets are **** up but that's nothing like it could really be. They wouldn't have been men anymore, Nothing that resembles a man. His goal was to make a Man human and inhuman at the same time. His goal was to make men into loving monsters but you cannot worship two masters. You can't have it both ways. You cannot hold on to your morality and be immoral at the same time.

Doing so would destroy you as it did that character. He is a man who held on to all the negativity in his life and it ate him. Totally consumed his being. He dwelled and thought back on it time and time again. He held on to it towards the very end.

What he tried to hold onto so dearly is what I want to rid myself of in my life, The Horror.
The remake comes from Joseph Conrad's The Heart of Darkness, a complex psychological novella whose time and place was at the cusp of the 19th and 20th centuries in the Congo. The horrors there perpetrated by the Europeans, especially the Belgians under King Leopold, makes Apocalypse Now into normal family entertainment. The main thing I recall about that film is that Marlon Brando as Kurtz was vastly overpaid.
Though that was tragic the real tragedy is how nothing happened the whole book. I have yet to get to the end but nothing happens. Some racial slurs and some **** things accompanied by random conversations. In apocalypse now, you can say that something happened during the movie.

Some scenes were boring there was more to it. Just random racism and asswhoopings in the heart of darkness. I am kinda disappointed in it. I was hoping there would be more of something. Not just violence but like a run in, A conflict. It's just a racist european traveling.

Maybe he falls in some quicksand, Maybe a wild animal comes and does something. It would be like if I wrote a book about me walking in the woods talking to my friends about the person we are going to meet.
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To generalize this back out rather than talk about the Vietnam war, if you end up dealing with a pathological narcissist, even several, close to you or a high quality psychopath, they bring the horror and you don't have to worry about finding it in the jungles somewhere. There's a part of this that's an inescapable aspect of human game theory. The only thing I can think of that's an answer to this is what Jamie Wheal often calls 'soul force', ie. people who've survived the worst of human violence and still side with love over hate.
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