Sick to support genocide based on age discrimination, especially when you were allowed to live past that age.Pattern-chaser wrote: ↑April 23rd, 2023, 12:02 pmThe convenience of not burdening the world with an unwanted child, in the context of a world with 8,000,000,000 humans in it. And maybe it's also avoiding the birth of a child whose parents cannot afford to care properly for it. Convenient, indeed.
Would you murder an innocent child with your bare hands to cure cancer?
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1. It’s immoral to kill a child, especially in such painful torture
2. It hurts women
Utah was one of the first states to acknowledge this & require pain medication to be administered to older children, though doctors recommended it be given to you get children too - before killing them.
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Genocide is an attempt to erase a species. With 8 billion of us, this hardly seems like a real risk.
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Yet another "opinion" on abortion (an issue of two competing interests) that conveniently ignores the one that contradicts their pet side of the topic. Makes for okay political mudslinging but very uncompelling philosophical discussion.Pattern-chaser wrote: ↑May 29th, 2023, 12:50 pmGenocide is an attempt to erase a species. With 8 billion of us, this hardly seems like a real risk.
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Pattern-chaser wrote: ↑May 29th, 2023, 12:50 pm Genocide is an attempt to erase a species. With 8 billion of us, this hardly seems like a real risk.
Thanks, Lucky. Insightful comments, as ever.
For myself, I strive to face my own opinions, and their ramifications and consequences, head-on. That I sometimes fail in this is merely a reflection of my real-life imperfection. But I do my best.
I don't see this as "an issue of two competing interests". I think it's more than that, and I think there are many more than two positions that one might occupy. It is a difficult and sensitive discussion to have, in which people hold deeply-entrenched ideas and beliefs, and they hold them just as sincerely and confidently as I hold my own (opinions). To achieve anything at all when discussing abortion, we have to acknowledge other people's opinions and genuine feelings, that are as deeply-held as our own.
I think throwing-in a charge of "genocide" is unnecessarily provocative; others may see it differently.
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What would stop you? The same thing that stops you right now having NOT killed a baby with your bare hands, namely a combination of your personal moral code and your fear of consequences from the community.Elindeque1992 wrote: ↑September 21st, 2023, 2:39 pm I would not. Once you cross that bridge, what else would you be willing to do to get what you want? What is to stop me from doing more despicable things?
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