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Should we stop using war as population culling of our young people?

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Should we stop using war as population culling of our young people?

For most of our Godless history, governments and religions have used war to reduce the population of their unruly men and women. This is understandable for those times, as tribes, governments and religions would have wanted to reduce the overrepresented male numbers, as compared to much fewer female numbers. Population balance, unfortunately, was required.

Ancient tough love from the Gods.

Modern wars seem to be designed to continue that vile policy.

Should we ask our political and oligarchic masters to stop wasting our young people with ancient ways?

If we are not to change our ways, cull the old. We are living too long, and the joys are fewer, as we watch the young be buried before the old. The opposite of what nature wants to see.

Culling the old is the moral thing to do. Our ways of culling the young are not natural.

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Greatest I am wrote: March 20th, 2022, 1:54 pm Should we stop using war as population culling of our young people?

For most of our Godless history, governments and religions have used war to reduce the population of their unruly men and women. This is understandable for those times, as tribes, governments and religions would have wanted to reduce the overrepresented male numbers, as compared to much fewer female numbers. Population balance, unfortunately, was required.

Ancient tough love from the Gods.

Modern wars seem to be designed to continue that vile policy.

Should we ask our political and oligarchic masters to stop wasting our young people with ancient ways?

If we are not to change our ways, cull the old. We are living too long, and the joys are fewer, as we watch the young be buried before the old. The opposite of what nature wants to see.

Culling the old is the moral thing to do. Our ways of culling the young are not natural.

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Greatest I am wrote: March 20th, 2022, 1:54 pm Should we stop using war as population culling of our young people?
I have always read that the numbers of people killed in wars are not sufficient to make a dent - even a small one, and even in the biggest wars - in our human population. As you say, we have a very long history of wars, small, medium and large, and yet our population has soared to 8,000,000,000 without any apparent difficulty.

Whatever else war is, it is not a mechanism for culling our population.
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Pattern-chaser wrote: March 21st, 2022, 11:38 am
Greatest I am wrote: March 20th, 2022, 1:54 pm Should we stop using war as population culling of our young people?
I have always read that the numbers of people killed in wars are not sufficient to make a dent - even a small one, and even in the biggest wars - in our human population. As you say, we have a very long history of wars, small, medium and large, and yet our population has soared to 8,000,000,000 without any apparent difficulty.

Whatever else war is, it is not a mechanism for culling our population.
After all, WW2 begat the baby boom.
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In his book "Cows, Pigs, Wars and Witches" anthropologist Marvin Harris suggests that primitive warfare in New Guinea helped control population. Of course young men are those disporportianately killed in war, and limiting the number of men in a society is ineffective at limiting population -- which is determined by the number of women bearing children. Harris showed that warlike societies in New Guinea VALUED warriors, and that by age 5 there were often 3-5 times more boys than girls. The obvious explanations are infanticide or selective neglect (neither was proven). In societies where more than half the children die before age 5, selective neglect might be sufficient to explain these statistics.

It appears true that primitive warlike societies are often among the most sexist -- men are valued as warriors and protectors.

I don't buy Harris's theory -- but it's an interesting one (the book also offers "economic" explanations oi prohibitions against eating cows -Hindus -- and pigs -- Jews and Moslems. Also, witch hunts, but I forget what that explanation was.
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Greatest I am wrote: March 20th, 2022, 1:54 pm Should we stop using war as population culling of our young people?

What war was fought for the purpose of culling the population of young people?
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Greatest I am wrote: March 20th, 2022, 1:54 pm Culling the old is the moral thing to do.
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LuckyR wrote: March 20th, 2022, 6:48 pm
Greatest I am wrote: March 20th, 2022, 1:54 pm Should we stop using war as population culling of our young people?

For most of our Godless history, governments and religions have used war to reduce the population of their unruly men and women. This is understandable for those times, as tribes, governments and religions would have wanted to reduce the overrepresented male numbers, as compared to much fewer female numbers. Population balance, unfortunately, was required.

Ancient tough love from the Gods.

Modern wars seem to be designed to continue that vile policy.

Should we ask our political and oligarchic masters to stop wasting our young people with ancient ways?

If we are not to change our ways, cull the old. We are living too long, and the joys are fewer, as we watch the young be buried before the old. The opposite of what nature wants to see.

Culling the old is the moral thing to do. Our ways of culling the young are not natural.

Regards
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Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence...
The evidence is the lack of any other candidate.

If wars were not created by religions or governments, what type of collective or tribe did created them?

I know. The atheist tribe. Powerful bastards all, who work from within governments and religions.

Satan has them well in hand.

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Greatest I am wrote: March 21st, 2022, 1:53 pm
LuckyR wrote: March 20th, 2022, 6:48 pm
Greatest I am wrote: March 20th, 2022, 1:54 pm Should we stop using war as population culling of our young people?

For most of our Godless history, governments and religions have used war to reduce the population of their unruly men and women. This is understandable for those times, as tribes, governments and religions would have wanted to reduce the overrepresented male numbers, as compared to much fewer female numbers. Population balance, unfortunately, was required.

Ancient tough love from the Gods.

Modern wars seem to be designed to continue that vile policy.

Should we ask our political and oligarchic masters to stop wasting our young people with ancient ways?

If we are not to change our ways, cull the old. We are living too long, and the joys are fewer, as we watch the young be buried before the old. The opposite of what nature wants to see.

Culling the old is the moral thing to do. Our ways of culling the young are not natural.

Regards
DL
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence...
The evidence is the lack of any other candidate.

If wars were not created by religions or governments, what type of collective or tribe did created them?

I know. The atheist tribe. Powerful bastards all, who work from within governments and religions.

Satan has them well in hand.

Regards
DL
We are in agreement on WHO created wars, but my request was proof on your assertion on WHY they were started.

Try again.
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Which wars were ever used as population culling of our young people?
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Natural selection culls out the weakest. Millions die every year as a result of grinding poverty, starvation and preventable disease.
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Do "shoulds" come into it? Most people will say they dislike war but the fact is that wars keep on happening. Nor is it restricted to one culture, who might be coaxed out of their warlike ways. A range of different cultures are engaging in war for various reasons.
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Greatest I am wrote: March 21st, 2022, 1:53 pm If wars were not created by religions or governments, what type of collective or tribe did created them?
The human tribe? When we can't get what we want, we hurt others until we get it...
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LuckyR wrote: March 21st, 2022, 5:09 pm
Greatest I am wrote: March 21st, 2022, 1:53 pm
LuckyR wrote: March 20th, 2022, 6:48 pm
Greatest I am wrote: March 20th, 2022, 1:54 pm Should we stop using war as population culling of our young people?

For most of our Godless history, governments and religions have used war to reduce the population of their unruly men and women. This is understandable for those times, as tribes, governments and religions would have wanted to reduce the overrepresented male numbers, as compared to much fewer female numbers. Population balance, unfortunately, was required.

Ancient tough love from the Gods.

Modern wars seem to be designed to continue that vile policy.

Should we ask our political and oligarchic masters to stop wasting our young people with ancient ways?

If we are not to change our ways, cull the old. We are living too long, and the joys are fewer, as we watch the young be buried before the old. The opposite of what nature wants to see.

Culling the old is the moral thing to do. Our ways of culling the young are not natural.

Regards
DL
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence...
The evidence is the lack of any other candidate.

If wars were not created by religions or governments, what type of collective or tribe did created them?

I know. The atheist tribe. Powerful bastards all, who work from within governments and religions.

Satan has them well in hand.

Regards
DL
We are in agreement on WHO created wars, but my request was proof on your assertion on WHY they were started.

Try again.
The bright can only eliminate the dark when the viewer sees well.

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Greatest I am wrote: March 27th, 2022, 11:16 am
LuckyR wrote: March 21st, 2022, 5:09 pm
Greatest I am wrote: March 21st, 2022, 1:53 pm
LuckyR wrote: March 20th, 2022, 6:48 pm

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence...
The evidence is the lack of any other candidate.

If wars were not created by religions or governments, what type of collective or tribe did created them?

I know. The atheist tribe. Powerful bastards all, who work from within governments and religions.

Satan has them well in hand.

Regards
DL
We are in agreement on WHO created wars, but my request was proof on your assertion on WHY they were started.

Try again.
The bright can only eliminate the dark when the viewer sees well.

Regards
DL
True, from the viewer's perspective. My vision is fine, you're just not providing any light. Perhaps you can't, which is okay (and not unexpected).
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