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Sy Borg wrote: September 27th, 2022, 8:51 pm In terms of nature v nurture, I see DNA as "stored nurture", especially with epigenetics being found to be influential. Thus "nature" is really just the "nurture" of previous generations. DNA carries history (and pre-history) that helps to shape the present. DNA holds the unspoken life lessons of our ancestors, passing on attributes to their offspring that helped them to survive and breed.

Certainly researchers are using DNA to extract stories from ancient times about both the organism and its environment.
Samana Johann wrote: February 7th, 2023, 7:48 am So it's because of DNA that one is a thieve, a killer, a fool, an abuser, or Admin? Higher and lower on kind of birth...
No. Binary thinking! DNA plays its part, but there are other players on this stage, as most of us know, I think?
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nihilism mean that there’s no moral or immoral.


But there is ? If a small kid was about to crawl straight into a well and you were standing right by, wouldnt u intercept to save the kid ? I certainly would and believe almost everyone would too - because its the morally right thing, as most would argue. So it appears that there is indeed something like moral and immoral, which if not objective - is atleast intersubjective.
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There's nothing easier than being a nihilist IMHO. It's like slipping into a warm bath, there's always a stock answer for everything ...everything sucks.

In this day and age it's much harder to be an optimist.
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Pattern-chaser wrote: February 7th, 2023, 9:58 am
Sy Borg wrote: September 27th, 2022, 8:51 pm In terms of nature v nurture, I see DNA as "stored nurture", especially with epigenetics being found to be influential. Thus "nature" is really just the "nurture" of previous generations. DNA carries history (and pre-history) that helps to shape the present. DNA holds the unspoken life lessons of our ancestors, passing on attributes to their offspring that helped them to survive and breed.

Certainly researchers are using DNA to extract stories from ancient times about both the organism and its environment.
Samana Johann wrote: February 7th, 2023, 7:48 am So it's because of DNA that one is a thieve, a killer, a fool, an abuser, or Admin? Higher and lower on kind of birth...
No. Binary thinking! DNA plays its part, but there are other players on this stage, as most of us know, I think?
Of which new world one is able to take on, as well as what one makes further, all of that is a matter of choices (intentions), good householder.
Like here, the taken on account, was taken on desire for becoming and given possibility.
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Arbu123 wrote: September 22nd, 2022, 3:24 pm Evolution appears to be allowing full potential. Does this argument hold up nihilism alone? Duality says, “Yes.” Free will says, “Yes.” Even metaphysical arguments, like Heaven AND Hell say, “Yes.” What do you guys think? Adaptation—to me—seems like it’s a way species are becoming “better” according to their surroundings. Even though evolution is a priori, I think it’s correct. If evolution becomes accepted, or proven, will nihilism fall in line shortly after?
The changing earth has no direction; thus, the adaptation of the organism follows its meandering. True Nihilism would be the physical world in the absence of a conscious biological subject, for biology is the measure and the meaning of all things. There is but one source of meaning, the physical world and its objects altering the biological consciousness of a subject, Informing its subjective experience with meanings and knowledge, biological reaction is our apparent reality and our projected experience.
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Nihilism, although most present, or because right of being very dominant, is one of the grave wrong views and cause of all foolish, evil and destructive deeds, among the idea of a super-being/reason in charge or the believe all is just accidentally. And what are the main factors of wrong belief, wrong view and deny of obligation?
https://accesstoinsight.eu/en/tipitaka/sut/an/an10/an10.176.than#mind wrote:...There is the case where a certain person is covetous. He covets the belongings of others, thinking, 'O, that what belongs to others would be mine!' He bears ill will, corrupt in the resolves of his heart: 'May these beings be killed or cut apart or crushed or destroyed, or may they not exist at all!' He has wrong view, is warped in the way he sees things: 'There is nothing given, nothing offered, nothing sacrificed. There is no fruit or result of good or bad actions. There is no this world, no next world, no mother, no father, no spontaneously reborn beings; no brahmans or contemplatives who, faring rightly & practicing rightly, proclaim this world & the next after having directly known & realized it for themselves.' This is how one is made impure in three ways by mental action. ...
And because there are just two destinations for one with wrong view (how ever good his doing might look), either hell or animal womb, one is smart to take the safe bet (btw. a master piece of destroying foolish arguments for wrong, if one is not hopeless mental handicap).
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PuerAzaelis wrote: February 7th, 2023, 1:35 pm There's nothing easier than being a nihilist IMHO. It's like slipping into a warm bath, there's always a stock answer for everything ...everything sucks.

In this day and age it's much harder to be an optimist.
Both use it for care- and shameless consume, to eat, to be. Both heading down, again and again, failing to get the point, good householder. Yet it's right that an eternalist has still hope to gain the track by holding on right view, while the Nihilists are hardly ever be helped out.
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"To God all things are right and good, only to man, somethings are and somethings are not." Heraclitus
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