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God hates weeping and begging

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GOD HATES WEEPING AND BEGGING

The devotee interested in the spiritual line should study more about the successful devotees. The study of God is not so important as the study of the personality of a true devotee. You should concentrate more on Prahlada, who could succeed in pleasing the Lord and your concentration on Lord Narasimha is not so important. You should always examine the personality of Hanuman in the spiritual line because God is extensively pleased with Him, which can be seen in the awarded fruit. Hanuman is made the future creator of this universe and this is the highest fruit, which means that God is extensively pleased with Him. Hanuman is famous for His courage and dignity.

He never wept and begged before God. If you are a true devotee, you need not weep or beg before God. If you have money in your pocket, you will go to the market of vegetables and purchase the vegetables with courage, confidence and dignity since you are going to pay the proper price. When you do not have money in your pocket, you will weep and beg before the seller of vegetables for donation of one or two vegetables at least. Therefore, if you weep and beg God for His grace, it means that you do not have the real devotion in your heart to pay the exact price of the grace of God. You know that your devotion is not true. Therefore, you are resorting to weeping and begging for God’s grace.

You think that at least you can get a little grace of God freely without paying any amount of actual price. When Draupadi cried begging the Lord for clothes, the Lord was not moved by her cry and begging. The Lord immediately checked her account book to see whether there is any credit in it that can be drawn along with its interest. The Lord observed one practical sacrifice of Draupadi for the sake of the Lord done previously as the credit in her account. Once the finger of Krishna was cut by the blade of a sugarcane. All the wives ran to the different sides of the house for a piece of cloth to be used as the bandage for the wound. But, Draupadi immediately tore the edge of her costly sari and the resultant piece of cloth was used as the bandage. Generally, women are fond of jewels and saris. Due to this reason, the wives of Krishna could not do that act.

That piece of cloth sacrificed for the Lord was multiplied as thousands of saris because the rate of interest of the bank of God is infinite since the wealth in it is infinite. If this service was done to a human being, hardly two or three saris could have been supplied. Hence, the Lord could have supplied those saris even if Draupadi did not weep. Even if she was silent leaving everything to God, this miracle should have been done. The reason for the miracle is not her weeping and begging. The reason is her practical sacrifice to God especially the human incarnation.

You may have faith in God but it is very difficult to recognize the human incarnation and maintain continuous faith in It. It has been the worst practice in all the religions since devotees everywhere developed different talents and techniques in the art of weeping and begging. Some devotees should be awarded Padma Vibhushan for developing new trends in weeping and begging before God! God hates you if you weep and beg anything from Him because you are aware of your false devotion to Him. Your real devotion is towards yourself, your wife, your children, your parents, your relatives and your friends only.

You know the truth of your false devotion and now you are trying to cheat God by your art of weeping and different discovered sentences, poems and songs of begging. It is a double crime. Hence, do not beg and weep before God. Be always brave and dignified before God like Hanuman. When you know that you do not deserve due to your false devotion, then also you maintain the dignified way before God. In such case, it is only one crime, which can be also rectified in course of time by developing true devotion. You need not ask God for anything even in your mind. If there is some credit of your true devotion in your account proved by practical sacrifice, the reward will come from God spontaneously in the required situation. Generally, people try to worship God in the times of difficulties. The omniscient God knows that your intensity of the worship is generated by the ambition for the solution of your problem and that it is not generated by the true love to God. You should not intensify the worship in the time of problems.

You can fool the people but not the omniscient God. You should maintain the same intensity of worship in all the times without linking it to benefits and solutions of problems. Such true devotion will be credited to the account. When Draupadi tore her sari and sacrificed for the Lord, then she was in happy situation. Therefore, your sacrifice is valid if it is done in the happy moment when there is no need for the help of God. At any cost, you should stop weeping and begging before God and learn the constant courage of Hanuman.

Identify the True Path Irrespective of Personal Liking

Another important worst aspect of a devotee is to decide the possible way for him as the only real way to God. His way may be lowest in quality but in his argument, such way becomes highest since he can travel in that way only. All other ways, which may be of far higher quality, are not at all the ways as per his argument since he cannot follow such ways.

I will give an example. Let us take the case of a greedy person. He cannot sacrifice even a single paisa or penny for the sake of God and therefore, he criticizes that money cannot purchase God. He will argue that the devotees, who sacrifice their bonds with money for the sake of God as the foolish people trying to purchase God by money. Even though such devotees are far higher than him in sacrificing the most valuable money for the sake of God, he will not tolerate them because he cannot sacrifice money for the sake of God. The possible way for him is to recite prayers and to do different worships involving rigid religious customs. He will say that such religious customs only please God.

In fact, such a devotee is the lowest since he cannot do any practical sacrifice and he is only theoretical. God appreciates only the practical sacrifice. God gave thousands of saris to Draupadi as a reward for her practical sacrifice especially to God. God did not reward her for her different forms of worship and different prayers recited. The human psychology is to raise the status of the path that is possible to him and to degrade all other paths, which are impossible for him. This is stupidity plated with ego and jealousy. One should search for the real path to please God and try to follow it slowly if not today, after sometime later on. The constant effort will lead to the success one day or other.

Instead of doing effort for such practical way, people try to give importance to theoretical ways, which are nothing but expressions of devotion through words, mind and intelligence only. Since, they are experts and talented in such stupid theoretical and religious ways, they try to give highest status to such ways since they can follow such ways only. By such behavior, they may get false satisfaction in following the true path to please God, but they utterly fail in reality. A false thing does not become true by arguments and propaganda. Truth is always truth whether all the people in this universe accept or not. This is also another type of behavior of devotees to be rectified.
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GOD HATES WEEPING AND BEGGING
What struck me about this heading was the fact that compassion seems to be at the heart of most traditions, and the claim that God "hates" actions that would otherwise evoke compassion in others seemed strange to me. If we, one with God, are to be compassionate, is God not compassionate?

The second point that struck me was the fact that someone who weeps - assuming it is not just for show - is acting out of an emotional state that is often spontaneous. I rarely weep, but when I do, I can't avoid it, even if I try to hide it. It is still a matter of the heart, and melancholy in the face of the world is not inappropriate. Bringing this emotion before God would not be uncommon.

Thirdly, I felt that hating begging is an insult to Buddhist monks who regularly go out with their bowls and ask for assistance, alluding to their lifestyle of voluntary poverty. Of course, you may have money, you might not.
The devotee interested in the spiritual line should study more about the successful devotees. The study of God is not so important as the study of the personality of a true devotee. You should concentrate more on Prahlada, who could succeed in pleasing the Lord and your concentration on Lord Narasimha is not so important. You should always examine the personality of Hanuman in the spiritual line because God is extensively pleased with Him, which can be seen in the awarded fruit. Hanuman is made the future creator of this universe and this is the highest fruit, which means that God is extensively pleased with Him. Hanuman is famous for His courage and dignity.
Of course, if you revere more a king from the demon ruling dynasty of the Daitya, than the avatar of Vishnu who incarnated to end religious persecution and calamity on earth, thereby restoring dharma, you probably have different priorities. Venerating Hanuman, as the ideal combination of "strength, heroic initiative and assertive excellence" and "loving, emotional devotion to his personal god Rama," it important to you that you go about with courage, confidence and dignity, but if you are born poor, and struggle to overcome the prejudice of society, it has little to do with not having “true devotion”. This seems to me to be a somewhat elitist view.

Or am I wrong? Is there room for compassion in the devotees of Prahlada and Hanuman?
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Re: God hates weeping and begging

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I can't be bothered to read all of your post, dattaswami, partly because they are too long by the standards of this forum, but chiefly because they are full of superstitious nonsense. But this time you have taken me unawares.

Yes OF COURSE god hates weeping and begging! If God exists, he is far too intelligent to entertain such mawkish nonsense for a moment. As Linda said, in the TV series "Becker", God will surely say, "I wish these people would shut up and leave me alone!".

God helps those who help themselves.
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