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Re: Is the following behaviour of doctors justified?

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LuckyR wrote: September 1st, 2019, 7:19 pm
Sculptor1 wrote: September 1st, 2019, 11:00 am

There's the problem right there.
If god cured you then you have to ask why he made you ill in the first place.
There is clearly some sort of basic cognitive problem.
If a patient can cure their own problem in any other way: religion, meditation, herbal meds, OTC meds, diet, exercise etc, they are free to do so and can claim full credit. In that scenario, leave the doctors out of it, both for blame and for credit.
Not even relevant to what I said.
Nevertheless you are still wrong because you missed out the most important healer; the human body itself ultimately does all the healing.
Modern medicine simply enables that healing to take place most efficiently. For example, without a broken leg being set by a doctor, (incidentally not included in your poor assessment of all doctors can do), you will always be a cripple regardless of how much you prey or think about it(meditation), And despite there being a herb called knit bone - I'd advise a real doctor.
doctors out of it, both for blame and for credit...
It was not a question about doctors but the foolish idea that god cures. Since god is all powerful and the creator of all, there can be no question that "he" makes all illness and all cures. That would rather beg the question why.
Maybe you ought to think about that before you respond to my post another time?
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Re: Is the following behaviour of doctors justified?

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Pel wrote: September 2nd, 2019, 2:56 am Lucky r, you said:

Really? That wasn't the vibe I was getting from your title. But I'll take you at your word. Kudos to you for solving your own problem.

I was a bit bored and impatient with the current ongoing medication reduction last night, otherwise things are getting better with the medication and all of that so called mental health issue stuff.

Plus, when I originally started writing this thread yes I was angry. But now I know that anger is never good for myself or anyone else.

Thanks
Great personal insight, I suspected something like that must be in play. Continued good luck.
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Re: Is the following behaviour of doctors justified?

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Sculptor1 wrote: September 2nd, 2019, 4:21 am
LuckyR wrote: September 1st, 2019, 7:19 pm
If a patient can cure their own problem in any other way: religion, meditation, herbal meds, OTC meds, diet, exercise etc, they are free to do so and can claim full credit. In that scenario, leave the doctors out of it, both for blame and for credit.
Not even relevant to what I said.
Nevertheless you are still wrong because you missed out the most important healer; the human body itself ultimately does all the healing.
Modern medicine simply enables that healing to take place most efficiently. For example, without a broken leg being set by a doctor, (incidentally not included in your poor assessment of all doctors can do), you will always be a cripple regardless of how much you prey or think about it(meditation), And despite there being a herb called knit bone - I'd advise a real doctor.
doctors out of it, both for blame and for credit...
It was not a question about doctors but the foolish idea that god cures. Since god is all powerful and the creator of all, there can be no question that "he" makes all illness and all cures. That would rather beg the question why.
Maybe you ought to think about that before you respond to my post another time?
Uummm... I figured even a simpleton could tell I was responding to the quote from Pel that I cited, alongside, but not challenging your response. Apparently I was in error, I apologize for that.

Didn't miss out on self healing, in fact it was the subject I addressed.

If you thought my one liner summary of what doctors do was a comprehensive review that parsed the difference between fractures set in the OR from those set in the clinic, you need to read more.

Again not challenging your response to Pel, addressing his comment in parallel, ie not about you, dude.
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Re: Is the following behaviour of doctors justified?

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LuckyR wrote: September 3rd, 2019, 2:02 am Uummm... I figured even a simpleton could tell I was responding to the quote from Pel that I cited, alongside, but not challenging your response. Apparently I was in error, I apologize for that.
Yes indeed. That would make you a simpleton. Since the thread was quite clear if you take the trouble to follow it.
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Re: Is the following behaviour of doctors justified?

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Sculptor1 wrote: September 1st, 2019, 11:00 am
Pel wrote: May 16th, 2012, 4:51 am Belinda, medication namely antipsychotics can't cure you. They can only make your situation worse. Antipsychotics theoretically prevent your dopamine receptors from registering exes dopamine. How can that cure you.

And yes I believe its God who cured me.
There's the problem right there.
If god cured you then you have to ask why he made you ill in the first place.
There is clearly some sort of basic cognitive problem.
Hi Sculptor.

I don’t think that God necessarily healed me without myself asking somehow to get well.

I was Sick that evening, and I thought to my self very strongly “I want to be well without the medication so that I can the truth about God”, and within about I can’t remember 100% maybe 5/6 seconds, I was well.

However, now I think that all experiences are a form of truth, even the ones I was seeking to be “rescued” from.

Thanks
My real name is Ervin.
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Pel wrote: October 14th, 2019, 3:53 am
Sculptor1 wrote: September 1st, 2019, 11:00 am

There's the problem right there.
If god cured you then you have to ask why he made you ill in the first place.
There is clearly some sort of basic cognitive problem.
Hi Sculptor.

I don’t think that God necessarily healed me without myself asking somehow to get well.

I was Sick that evening, and I thought to my self very strongly “I want to be well without the medication so that I can the truth about God”, and within about I can’t remember 100% maybe 5/6 seconds, I was well.

However, now I think that all experiences are a form of truth, even the ones I was seeking to be “rescued” from.

Thanks
Delusion. Thanks
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Re: Is the following behaviour of doctors justified?

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Hi everyone, just to let you all know that I have come to believe in God Yahweh and His Son Jesus Christ as my Lord and Saviour. It’s a bit of a story as to how I came to it. I will just urge you all to take good look at the Bible for instance.
The Bible is the best written book there is and that is one of my reasons for accepting God Yahweh and His Son Jesus Christ as my Lord and Saviour. Compare the Bible to other books.

Thanks

And just in case my real name is Ervin
My real name is Ervin.
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