Smokers will tell you that revenues taken in health levies and sales tax more than cover all the cancer treatment smoking related diseases cost.Terrapin Station wrote: ↑June 19th, 2020, 10:51 amOne simple solution is to simply allow people to opt out of taxpayer-funded healthcare related to their smoking. Why wouldn't that be acceptable? That way you don't get to tell them that they can't smoke, and no one is required to pay taxes for healthcare for people who choose to smoke (healthcare for issues that are related to their smoking).Steve3007 wrote: ↑June 19th, 2020, 4:58 am
The consequences of tobacco smoking to the people who work to fund the healthcare system.
I want to live in a society which confers rights on people to a greater extent than is advocated by strict Libertarianism. All rights imply obligations. One of the rights I want to confer is free-at-the-point-of-delivery healthcare. That automatically means that I want to non-consensually oblige some people to work to fund that healthcare, whether via taxation or whatever. i.e. I don't want to give them a free choice as to whether they pay those taxes such that the consequences to them of paying/not paying are equal; I want to put in place consequences which strongly motivate them to pay. If my aim is realized then I've put in place a system which means that a consequence of tobacco smoking is non-consensual tax paying - i.e. taxpaying in which a strong incentive to pay is put in place.
That's not an ideal solution--the ideal solution is to not have such a stupid economic system in place, but that is a simple solution for not wanting to pay for healthcare for people who do things that we know can easily damage health in particular ways, in a situation where we're still paying taxes, etc.
A packet of fags in the UK attracts as much as 90% taxation. What costs £2 in eastern Europe costs £8 in the UK.
It's worth about £12 billion per year. Probably 11% of the NHS budget. ANd we are all going to die of something and cost the NHS lots of money as we go.