Newme wrote: ↑
May 23rd, 2019, 3:51 pm
Karpel Tunnel wrote: ↑
May 18th, 2019, 6:34 pm
Except that it occurs in all cultures and in many species other than humans. Not just sexual acts, but even animals pairing for life or regularly engaging in and preferring same sex sex and social contact. It's all over the place. It's been within the range of fairly common human activity for as long as we can look back. Unlike pedophilia it does not need, just as heterosexul sex does not need, to include consent violations and emotional damage.
Do you think it logical or kind to compare those with homosexual disorder to animals?
We are animals. We are a species of animal. So, sure. Since you seem to think science backs up your position, scientists use animals all the time to find out about humans: this is true in medicine where all sorts of testing goes on with other species for drugs and treatments for our benefit, but also in many of the biological sciences.
Some animals eat their young - so does that male it ok for humans to?
You do understand that I was responding TO YOUR ASSERTION.
Homosexuality is a disorder - not the way of nature.
This is just simply and scientifically incorrect.
A good even overview is in https://www.amazon.com/Biological-Exube ... 031225377X
Now you shift the issue to 'shall we do all things that are natural to animals?' Well, no. We have decided to stop doing many things we, the human animal did. We are free to choose how we want to interact.
But note: note, in these cases by arguing that it is against nature. We outlawed murder even though it is clear that animals kill each other often for no good reason. You can argue that you want homosexuality not to be allowed, but not on the grounds that is is against nature.
Why? because it is clearly not against nature.
Just as I cannot argue against adult child sex because it supposedly does not fit with nature. But it does. There are species that do this and so do humans.
However, I don't want there to be adult child sex. I have other reasons why I don't want that. They are not based on the naturalness of it.
You raised the issue of it not being natural. Live with the fact that argument is empty and don't pull these shifts of topic as if I was not responding to YOUR claim around naturalness unnaturalness.
The anus is anatomically designed as an exit, not an entrance. When attempted to use it for an entrance, doctors warn or anal fissures, colon rupture &/or bacterial infection. So not only is this homosexual act a disorder but also harmful. According to US nationwide health reports gathered by the US CDC, those practicing homosexuality have much higher rates of STDs, HIV/AIDs and mental illness. Some have fallen for emotional reasoning and appeal to emotion in wanting to appear kind. Yet, how kind is it to encourage behavior known to be harmful?
And pregnancy is dangerous for women, celibacy is safer for everyone, driving is generally extremely dangerous, McDonalds food contributes to deaths....and so on in hundreds of legal activities.
I don't encourage anyone to have homosexul sex or heterosexual sex for that matter. But if you fall in love with same sex people and want to make love in certain ways, that is your business. I don't expect them to be celibate because their sexuality entails certain risks.
Lesbian sex is the absolute safest. Should we discourage women from have heterosexual sex and just figure out how to test tube baby to birth?