Which side are you in?

Discuss the March 2021 Philosophy Book of the Month, The Biblical Clock: The Untold Secrets Linking the Universe and Humanity with God’s Plan by Daniel Friedmann.
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Re: Which side are you in?

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Sushan
As per the author, there are three kinds of humans when it comes to the discussion regarding origin of the solar system and life.

1. Those who believe in scientific theories and see the incongruity of the biblical teachings with the scientific evidence.

2. Those who believe in God and the creation, yet with the basic scientific knowledge seeing that what science says does not go along with what bible says.

3. Those who have a fairly good knowledge about science as well as the bible, but not taken any side, yet thinking over whether these two can go hand in hand.

Are these the only groups that we can divide all humans regarding this topic of discussion? In which group are you in (or mostly fit in)? Why do you say so?
There is another small group and I've yet to find an individual on a secular philosophy site who has answered this basic question in a logical fashion who I can learn from. This basic question asks: What is the purpose of our universe and Man's purpose within it? What does it do and why does it do it? It seem obvious enough but for some reason it is equally avoided by both science and religion. Yet if it were ever understood, there would be no conflict between science and religion.
Man would like to be an egoist and cannot. This is the most striking characteristic of his wretchedness and the source of his greatness." Simone Weil....Gravity and Grace
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Re: Which side are you in?

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Sushan wrote: March 1st, 2021, 8:58 pm
When you consider the origin of the universe, the emergence of life on Earth, and the future of humanity, the chances are you do so from one of three perspectives. Perhaps you’re educated in the sciences and are convinced that current scientific theories and data explain our origins and enable us to exercise some control over future events; yet you also have a knowledge of the Bible and its seeming incompatibility with science. Alternatively, you might believe that God created the world and that the scriptures contain all of the answers about our origins and future; at the same time, you understand the basics of the scientific theories and can see their apparent incongruity with some of the teachings of your religion. Then again, you may be familiar with the fundamentals of biblical religions and of science, not feel committed to one or the other perspective, yet be curious about whether their apparently disparate explanations and timelines for our origins and outlook on the future are reconcilable.
As per the author, there are three kinds of humans when it comes to the discussion regarding origin of the solar system and life.

1. Those who believe in scientific theories and see the incongruity of the biblical teachings with the scientific evidence.

2. Those who believe in God and the creation, yet with the basic scientific knowledge seeing that what science says does not go along with what bible says.

3. Those who have a fairly good knowledge about science as well as the bible, but not taken any side, yet thinking over whether these two can go hand in hand.

Are these the only groups that we can divide all humans regarding this topic of discussion? In which group are you in (or mostly fit in)? Why do you say so?

That is not true that those are the only perspectives.
You have a lot of hidden assumptions in your comment.

Science and religion are not at odds with each other at all
Because information is organized in different ways in terms of how meaning is encoded .

You have literal information and you have metaphor information
They both accomplish what the other cannot accomplish.

In our modern times literal information has grown so much , however metaphor is still massive part of our life .
Both are valid they just work differently.

A simple example

Take a photo .

What is it literally?

A photo is literally stacked rows of color dots.

But, when you look at a photo and see something say a human being , it is metaphor meaning information that you see something besides stacked rows of color dots .

It is literally impossible for stacked rows of color dots to be a person !

Yet you can look at a photograph of a person and trace that information back to a real person .


So metaphor information is valid and many examples where metaphor lead you to truth which literal information says is impossible .



So information is encoded different ways.

Literal meaning ( approximation of narrow context , specificity low compression. Meaning is direct on surface )

Metaphor meaning ( ambiguity, tackles large context , high compression meaning is deeper down )


Science and religion have nothing at all that clash with each other .
They both use totally different types of information encoded differently .
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