The focus is wealth not health in too many instances

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We've been pushed to be "good" patients and better consumers that don't complain. It's going to take so much to fix this system. We all know that big insurance overcharges for everything. Seeing the ease the hospitals negotiate if necessary, or how the base price for the same procedure if you have medicare is thousands of dollars cheaper shows just how broken the system is. I've had good and bad doctors, but the bad experiences probably would not have been improved by a guide like this. Sometimes it doesn't matter how well you prepare they don't have the time or interest left to truly serve a person's whole health, which would help avoid a lot of catastrophic health situations the author talks about. The fact is if you have medicare many doctors feel it's not worth the money to spend the time. I was told concerning Medicaid a few years ago it didn't cover the specialists gas to work. As long as it's like this we all have that big event coming at some point in our lives to sink us. The focus is wealth not health in too many instances.
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Well, you have a point. In today society many people care about their own gain, and the field of medicine or its service providers are not excluded from that. Many try to gain more by doing less. There are less people who love to work hard and for many hours. I am not much aware about nationwide health insurance systems, but I have seen many specialists who do not have time for patients in the government institutes spend hours for patients in their private channelling centres. But at the same time I have seen specialists as well as general practitioners who care equally to every patient though they are paid consumers or not. So, I think it is not the fault of the system, but mostly of the people and their minds. Though here we discuss about the medical field, this is common to any other field as well.
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You're right! There are many wonderful doctors and surgeons etc out there that go above and beyond in their dedication. I guess I just would like to see the ones that don't held a bit more accountable when a large diagnosis is missed. Not every case, but I've had an issue that I kept telling the doctor I believed was happening, ran rampant in the family, and I was presenting all classic symptoms. After 3 times in the office I went to the er. A simple sonogram showed I had the issue and was rushed to emergency surgery. Having had insurance upon refection I was floored that had I been sent for such a simple thing I could have avoided a lot of the aftermath. I know my experience is not the norm, but it happens enough The system improvement I'd like to see is the price issue I mention. An ingrown toenail will be charged to Humana at 2000$ vs Medicare at 600$. But no change to procedure. I get that medicare is given a discount but it feels a bit extreme. I do know these days the hospitals are working with people on the crazy balances left. Medical debt in itself can feel catastrophic, and the dress from it is definitely adverse to overall health.
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I agree that healthcare nowadays is often entered into for financial gain and also due to gain status in the society. Doctors have prestige and earn the praise of people for being doctors and are looked up to as they are thought to be more intelligent and caring. They earn a lot more than other types of professions. Despite of this, there are are many complaints about the treatment of patients in the healthcare system. As the writer of this book has mentioned in some parts, clients are often not recieving the attention and care they deserve a lot of the time. Clients need more than just s diagnosis and some medication. At the same time many important types of treatment are unbelievably expensive and so not available to normal people. There are also discriminatory rules at times and age discrimination, in which people above a certain age are denied access to certain treatments. Therefore, in our time it seems that the essence of healthcare as a caring profession has been corrupted somewhat. It's perhaps not enough that grades determine a profession but also a person's personality and reason for entering it. It would be useful if training taught the younger doctors that they are providing a service and it is a huge responsibility. People's lives are in their hands, so it is not only for financial gsin
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ReaderAisha2020 wrote: June 7th, 2021, 3:53 pm I agree that healthcare nowadays is often entered into for financial gain and also due to gain status in the society. Doctors have prestige and earn the praise of people for being doctors and are looked up to as they are thought to be more intelligent and caring. They earn a lot more than other types of professions. Despite of this, there are are many complaints about the treatment of patients in the healthcare system. As the writer of this book has mentioned in some parts, clients are often not recieving the attention and care they deserve a lot of the time. Clients need more than just s diagnosis and some medication. At the same time many important types of treatment are unbelievably expensive and so not available to normal people. There are also discriminatory rules at times and age discrimination, in which people above a certain age are denied access to certain treatments. Therefore, in our time it seems that the essence of healthcare as a caring profession has been corrupted somewhat. It's perhaps not enough that grades determine a profession but also a person's personality and reason for entering it. It would be useful if training taught the younger doctors that they are providing a service and it is a huge responsibility. People's lives are in their hands, so it is not only for financial gsin
A couple of things:

Firstly, if someone can get into Med school, they have access to other opportunities that make more money than being a doctor.

Secondly, Med school training spends little to no time and energy training young doctors about the business of medicine.

Lastly, running into a crappy doctor is not evidence of problems with the system of Healthcare delivery. I'm not saying that there aren't problems with the system, just that anecdotes about this or that jerk doctor isn't proof of them.
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LuckyR wrote: June 8th, 2021, 3:08 am
ReaderAisha2020 wrote: June 7th, 2021, 3:53 pm I agree that healthcare nowadays is often entered into for financial gain and also due to gain status in the society. Doctors have prestige and earn the praise of people for being doctors and are looked up to as they are thought to be more intelligent and caring. They earn a lot more than other types of professions. Despite of this, there are are many complaints about the treatment of patients in the healthcare system. As the writer of this book has mentioned in some parts, clients are often not recieving the attention and care they deserve a lot of the time. Clients need more than just s diagnosis and some medication. At the same time many important types of treatment are unbelievably expensive and so not available to normal people. There are also discriminatory rules at times and age discrimination, in which people above a certain age are denied access to certain treatments. Therefore, in our time it seems that the essence of healthcare as a caring profession has been corrupted somewhat. It's perhaps not enough that grades determine a profession but also a person's personality and reason for entering it. It would be useful if training taught the younger doctors that they are providing a service and it is a huge responsibility. People's lives are in their hands, so it is not only for financial gsin
A couple of things:

Firstly, if someone can get into Med school, they have access to other opportunities that make more money than being a doctor.

Secondly, Med school training spends little to no time and energy training young doctors about the business of medicine.

Lastly, running into a crappy doctor is not evidence of problems with the system of Healthcare delivery. I'm not saying that there aren't problems with the system, just that anecdotes about this or that jerk doctor isn't proof of them.
I have to agree with this. It really does depend on the doctor's personality and attitude. I know doctors who are very dedicated and compassionate with their work and there are also a few who are indeed just after the wealth. But to think that they have to go through a lot and even spend a lot in becoming a doctor, maybe some are just using their profession to pay the debts they've incurred along the process of becoming a doctor. Trust me, there are a lot of healthcare workers who thinks of their patient more than they think of themselves and that is a very pure emotion from them. The wholesomeness in just the mere thoughts of helping their patients recover and get back with their lives is their vocation that's why even if there are times that it is beyond their capabilities, still they try their best to be there for the needy. We might just have to see from their point of views as to why they are the way they are-- the good and the bad. Afterall, we are all responsible for our actions and there is enough reason to justify the reason behind our actions.
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