Down with all those spectral figures
Darting about in a purplish fog,
Those ghostly phantoms that are wraithlike,
Shadowy, incorporeal, insubstantial,
Disembodied, unearthly, otherworldly,
And downright spooky.
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What are angels, demons and spirit guides?
I don't think that there are "religious experiences" that are different from any other experiences. I think that experience is just the correlate of learned verbal behaviour, i.e. it is conditioned.JackDaydream wrote: ↑October 10th, 2021, 1:58 pm @ stevie
I think that I interpreted your initial response as being more along the lines of the view that people look for logical explanations and this may lead to wishful thinking about angels and spirit guides. The point which I am making is that religious experiences are spontaneous experiences of what Rudolf Otto describes as 'the numinous'.
For me what is called "experience" is just another aspect of evolution. So "survival of the fittest" covers all possible views of self and the world.JackDaydream wrote: ↑October 10th, 2021, 1:58 pm One aspect of this kind of experience is spoken of by Julian Jaynes in his, 'Origins of the Bicameral Mind'. He argues that ancient people experienced consciousness differently from people of the present time and heard 'voices'. He goes on to say that people who are diagnosed with schizophrenia may be experiencing a throwback to a stage of consciousness more common in ancient times. He sees this form of consciousness as being based on less of a clear distinction between inner and outer, with the projection of ideas onto figures of gods and other 'spirit' beings. It is hard to know whether his understanding of ancient thinking is correct, but I find it a useful point of view for reflection.
Sure, and we gravitate toward the entertaining world of fantasy in order to be able to feel more, as the characters therein, than from the everyday mostly mundane events, first as children watching cartoons and making up imaginary worlds with other children, and then as adults writing stories and watching movies. The religions even made up one of the greatest fairy tales of all, ignoring the contradictions much like we did for those in cartoons.
Learning more about science freed me from the invisible terrors of superstition and other forms of irrational thinking that plagued me as a child.