Indeed! It's not a very well thought out belief system. Most atheist I encounter are angry people (SB/Sculpture dude).
Atheism is not Logical
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Yep. The self-refuting part takes the form of Atheist Fundamentalism.
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Yes! And yet:
Only a fool says there is God.
Both are true.
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No, I did not, evidently so. It seems that you are the one having a logical breakdown because you are the one that brought "god" into the conversation. Not me.And yes you did say "spirituality mandates the existence of a god. "; whether you like it or not.
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How can that be!? That would be logically impossible!!!Pattern-chaser wrote: ↑December 2nd, 2022, 12:39 pmYes! And yet:
Only a fool says there is God.
Both are true.
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Only a fool would make such a claim. Either claim.3017Metaphysician wrote: ↑December 2nd, 2022, 12:56 pmHow can that be!? That would be logically impossible!!!Pattern-chaser wrote: ↑December 2nd, 2022, 12:39 pmYes! And yet:
Only a fool says there is God.
Both are true.
"Who cares, wins"
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...you mean that you yourself are logically impossible?Pattern-chaser wrote: ↑December 2nd, 2022, 12:58 pmOnly a fool would make such a claim. Either claim.3017Metaphysician wrote: ↑December 2nd, 2022, 12:56 pmHow can that be!? That would be logically impossible!!!Pattern-chaser wrote: ↑December 2nd, 2022, 12:39 pmYes! And yet:
Only a fool says there is God.
Both are true.
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Pattern-chaser wrote: ↑December 2nd, 2022, 12:58 pmOnly a fool would make such a claim. Either claim.3017Metaphysician wrote: ↑December 2nd, 2022, 12:56 pmHow can that be!? That would be logically impossible!!!Pattern-chaser wrote: ↑December 2nd, 2022, 12:39 pm Yes! And yet:
Only a fool says there is God.
Both are true.
Not at all. I believe, but I do not assert (to the world, as a fact) that God exists, or that others should believe what I believe.3017Metaphysician wrote: ↑December 2nd, 2022, 1:01 pm ...you mean that you yourself are logically impossible?
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Accept the challenge or be called a cowardPattern-chaser wrote: ↑December 2nd, 2022, 11:01 amPattern-chaser wrote: ↑December 1st, 2022, 1:31 pm Why do you think it is "logical" to believe, or to disbelieve, anything, without evidence, justification, or reason? Is that logic, or logical? I can't see it.I am ignoring you because you have nothing interesting or useful to offer, only bluster, conceit, and sneering condescension.
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a Whatever begins to exist has a cause of its existence.
b The universe began to exist.
c Therefore, the universe has a cause of its existence.
But existence itself has no cause for its existence.
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You have to introduce CONTROL to move on philosophically but how are you going to do that if your belief system doesn’t allow it because it states that the thing that needs to introduce that control doesn’t exist?
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The neutral just looks and listens and smiles.
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So, a little feedback from a fellow theist. This is a generalized ad hom. It also contains false generalizations. Yes, some atheists and other non-theists are quite capable of similar, crappy posts. This approach is certainly not going to make that go away.Joshua10 wrote: ↑December 3rd, 2022, 3:01 am As atheists believe they are nothing more than dualistic data processing emotional reactors then they remain on the “hamsters wheel” and their science and philosophy reflect this and is incorrect.
You have to introduce CONTROL to move on philosophically but how are you going to do that if your belief system doesn’t allow it because it states that the thing that needs to introduce that control doesn’t exist?
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Is it logical to believe things that one thinks one should not assert?Pattern-chaser wrote: ↑December 2nd, 2022, 2:56 pmPattern-chaser wrote: ↑December 2nd, 2022, 12:58 pmOnly a fool would make such a claim. Either claim.3017Metaphysician wrote: ↑December 2nd, 2022, 12:56 pmHow can that be!? That would be logically impossible!!!Pattern-chaser wrote: ↑December 2nd, 2022, 12:39 pm Yes! And yet:
Only a fool says there is God.
Both are true.Not at all. I believe, but I do not assert (to the world, as a fact) that God exists, or that others should believe what I believe.3017Metaphysician wrote: ↑December 2nd, 2022, 1:01 pm ...you mean that you yourself are logically impossible?
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