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The New Testament

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Re: The New Testament

Post by Present awareness » July 1st, 2014, 10:30 pm

If a person believes that the New Testament is the word go God, no amount of arguing will convince them otherwise. If a person does not believe the New Testament to be the word of God, no amount of arguing will convince them otherwise. The most they may hope for is to agree to disagree.

My personal view is that a story is a story, used to illustrate a moral value. If you want to take the story literally, that's fine, just as long as you understand the moral value which it is pointing to. To make a story interesting, Hollywood likes to add drama. A miracle here and there, will always add interest to a story, if only because we wonder how it is possible. Let's face it, humans love to hear entertaining stories. To me, it's completely beside the point whether or not the stories are based on fact. They are what they are, so why not simply enjoy them, rather they haggle over whether they are real?
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Re: The New Testament

Post by Cosmogenes » August 31st, 2018, 9:54 pm

Paul's Christ is a deity that shapeshifted into a human form. So is the Logos of the John Gospel. The virgin birth idea was a totally different concept.

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Re: The New Testament

Post by Cosmogenes » August 31st, 2018, 10:07 pm

The "New Testament" represents the Pauline, Gentile version of the eschatological movement which was preceded by the Essene/Ebionite Jewish movement led by a "Righteous Teacher" that was originally persecuted by Saul/Paul.
Some hybridized sects made the "Jesus Christ" out of that figure, but the Pauiline "Christ" was not really human, only a divine being who decided to shapeshift into the likeness of a human. This is also in agreement with the John Gospel's "Logos" figure. No birth story!

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