What has God actually done wrong ?

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NeilWallace wrote: September 6th, 2021, 9:42 am Natural Evil though is still created by the Old Testiment Creator God.
Job's solution seems to be God created Evil but he works in mysterious ways so just have faith in that.
There seems to be other solutions though. A very simple one being to decide that God does not exist.

It is impossible to blame something for events when that something does not in fact Exist.

I agree with the questioner "What has God actually done wrong?" that many Atheists have an illogical angry blameful attitude towards something they do not believe exists.

For me Evil is a mixture of Natural and Human. God has done nothing wrong in that sense. Because there is no God.
Can we live without evil? Does it have a benefit and must remain active?

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Neil Wallace wrote: September 5th, 2021, 4:22 pm You could have Jesus as the Good Deity, God as the Old Testimant Creator Deity, then you would be fairly orthodox and call my position a heresy. The Bible's good that way in its flexibility. Glad its not the 17th Century. Hide the matches and kindling wood.
Can Jesus be the good guy when he has promised to genocide us with Armageddon?

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Greatest I am wrote: September 7th, 2021, 11:01 am
Neil Wallace wrote: September 5th, 2021, 4:22 pm You could have Jesus as the Good Deity, God as the Old Testimant Creator Deity, then you would be fairly orthodox and call my position a heresy. The Bible's good that way in its flexibility. Glad its not the 17th Century. Hide the matches and kindling wood.
Can Jesus be the good guy when he has promised to genocide us with Armageddon?

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For me, its just a contradictory story. Mine's would only be a literary analysis of character. You would need to have that discussion with a believer.
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Can we live without evil? Does it have a benefit and must remain active?

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Personally, you assume Life to be good. If Earth was lifeless there would be no evil. That would to my mind be the best of all worlds - that life was never created in the first place.

God has that "benefit" actually - he doesn't exist and hence is not a cause of evil and suffering.
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The evil that is the case seems to be necessary however much we rightfully hate and deplore it.

- Evil is necessary for life. I agree.

If there was no life there would be no Evil.

If God had chosen not to create life -there would be no evil. A state of nothingness - is not particularly good, bad or anything. Nothingness is ethically pure in that sense.

If God existed then it is difficult not to form the conclusion that God was wrong in creating life. However, As I don't believe he exists - I'm not pinning the rap on him for it.
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Neil Wallace wrote: September 7th, 2021, 6:47 pm
Can we live without evil? Does it have a benefit and must remain active?

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Personally, you assume Life to be good. If Earth was lifeless there would be no evil. That would to my mind be the best of all worlds - that life was never created in the first place.

God has that "benefit" actually - he doesn't exist and hence is not a cause of evil and suffering.
Inquisitions and jihads.

Need I say more?

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Neil Wallace wrote: September 7th, 2021, 6:53 pm The evil that is the case seems to be necessary however much we rightfully hate and deplore it.

- Evil is necessary for life. I agree.

If there was no life there would be no Evil.

If God had chosen not to create life -there would be no evil. A state of nothingness - is not particularly good, bad or anything. Nothingness is ethically pure in that sense.

If God existed then it is difficult not to form the conclusion that God was wrong in creating life. However, As I don't believe he exists - I'm not pinning the rap on him for it.
Rap.

You mean reward, if I read you right.

Remember that the world and you are the best you can possibly be, given entropy and our history.

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