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[Charlemagne]

"Because many only believe what they can be shown. They can't be shown a god, so they don't believe. You're right they can't be shown proof of no gods, but they're starting with a belief in nothing and building up from there. Your argument makes sense for the person who starts out believing in everything and then drops those that can be disproven. You can't disprove gods, so they believe in them. I don't know anyone who thinks like that."

I don't think that's the way most people think about God. The search for God is primitive and stems from a desire to explain the ultimate origin of things. Certainly the Greek mythology was of this type. Judaic theology was much more sophisticated, centering as it does on the creation of the universe. The origin of that religion did not stem from believing in everything, but from trying to explain everything.

Or as Einstein put it:

"I'm not an atheist and I don't think I can call myself a pantheist. We are in the position of a little child entering a huge library filled with books in many languages. The child knows someone must have written those books. It does not know how. It does not understand the languages in which they are written. The child dimly suspects a mysterious order in the arrangements of the books, but doesn't know what it is. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of even the most intelligent human being toward God."

[Charlemagne]

In truth, the Sun is our creator. It doesn't get nearly enough credit IMO.

I do know about natures science and philosophy and it ain’t atheistic science and philosophy.i know as much about magnetic interactions as I need to know which confirms that atheistic science and philosophy is based upon half logic.

You'll find great back-up documentation for this view in this article:

https://catholicinsight.com/science-and ... s-forever/

[Joshua10]

I would suggest that atheistic logic is good is bad and bad is good because atheists HOPE that there isn’t a God.
I would suggest that theistic logic is good is good and bad is bad because theist HOPE that there is a God.
I would suggest that natures logic couldn’t care less but does allow for all possibilities and it’s science and philosophy reflect this.

I have given an explanation example of this full logic with magnetic force interactions NN,NS,SN,SS.Each of these interactions provide a reaction whether it be attractive or repulsive.None of these interactions cancel out to justify inventing a new force called gravity.

I have explained that in order to obtain any sort of balance an alternating N and S needs to interact with an alternating N and S giving the formula:

Alternating N/S = Alternating N/S which produces vibration.

I suggest and maintain that these alternating force interactions are one of the foundation elements for the make up and workings of the cosmos including our physical make up.

[Joshua10]

I have suggested and maintain that Natures science is REAL science and atheistic science is fake.