Why Believe in a God when It is Impossible to Prove?
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Re: Why Believe in a God when It is Impossible to Prove?
If you were created by a Creator, and that Creator wishes to have an ongoing relationship with you, then it is up to you to establish and maintain that relationship, should you so choose.
Proof, I believe, of God would come from the revelation of His unconditional love. If we discover that God is unconditionally loving towards us, then faith (optimistic conviction) would be established and a "father-son" relationship would grow over time.
Is that difficult to understand for an atheist? I wouldn't say the belief is on the same level as having an imaginary friend.
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The 4 off magnetic interactions of NN,SN,NS,SS or binary logic 1,1….0,1….1,0…..0.0 or ++….+-….-+….— interactions do not provide a balance.They only produce reactions I.e. attraction or repulsion in nature.
Inorder to obtain balance one requires “TOGGLING” + and - on both sides of the fence to produce a vibrational balance which is exactly what is observed in nature and as I have suggested is what holds matter together.It ain’t glue (gluons) as the atheists claim with their half logic science that’s for sure.
The correct formula for nature therefore is Separated and toggling + and- forces = Separated and toggling + and - forces.
The formula for balance is not +=- and -=+ as atheistic science claims from its misguided foundational moral cancelling out which has resulted in atheism going on to try and redefine natures science with an unknown force gravity.
Electromechanical processes perfectly explain the workings of the cosmos and the brain.
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Re: Why Believe in a God when It is Impossible to Prove?
Humans were and are created by a creator, or Creator. The creator , or Creator, is nature, or Nature.Paul91 wrote: ↑October 3rd, 2022, 6:04 pm The teleological argument is strongest, so I'll assume there is a Creator God...
If you were created by a Creator, and that Creator wishes to have an ongoing relationship with you, then it is up to you to establish and maintain that relationship, should you so choose.
Proof, I believe, of God would come from the revelation of His unconditional love. If we discover that God is unconditionally loving towards us, then faith (optimistic conviction) would be established and a "father-son" relationship would grow over time.
Is that difficult to understand for an atheist? I wouldn't say the belief is on the same level as having an imaginary friend.
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I would agree to the possibility that we have been created, nature as well.Why not?Belindi wrote: ↑October 4th, 2022, 3:36 amHumans were and are created by a creator, or Creator. The creator , or Creator, is nature, or Nature.Paul91 wrote: ↑October 3rd, 2022, 6:04 pm The teleological argument is strongest, so I'll assume there is a Creator God...
If you were created by a Creator, and that Creator wishes to have an ongoing relationship with you, then it is up to you to establish and maintain that relationship, should you so choose.
Proof, I believe, of God would come from the revelation of His unconditional love. If we discover that God is unconditionally loving towards us, then faith (optimistic conviction) would be established and a "father-son" relationship would grow over time.
Is that difficult to understand for an atheist? I wouldn't say the belief is on the same level as having an imaginary friend.
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Re: Why Believe in a God when It is Impossible to Prove?
You can't "prove" anything "in a tentative way". Proof is not tentative, it's absolute, or something very close to it. In a scientific sense, it is quite impossible to prove (or disprove) anything to do with God, because there is no (scientifically-acceptable) evidence. None at all.Charlemagne wrote: ↑October 7th, 2022, 10:49 am The existence of God is possible to prove in a tentative way to anyone with an open mind, but not an absolute way...
I am a believer, but I do not assert the real-world existence of God, as some do. How can/could I, without any evidence at all? God is a spiritual and aspirational truth, quite different from a scientific, spacetime, truth. Science and religion both seek knowledge, but it isn't the same type of knowledge, never mind the same knowledge. Horses for courses, as they say!
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Because many only believe what they can be shown. They can't be shown a god, so they don't believe. You're right they can't be shown proof of no gods, but they're starting with a belief in nothing and building up from there. Your argument makes sense for the person who starts out believing in everything and then drops those that can be disproven. You can't disprove gods, so they believe in them. I don't know anyone who thinks like that.Charlemagne wrote: ↑October 7th, 2022, 3:41 pm The question that really baffles me is why someone asks if there is a reason to believe in God when proof is impossible, while at the same time not first answering the question: what is the reason for believing there is no God when it is impossible to prove that?
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You are preaching your religious beliefs again Sy Borg.You told me that that was against forum rules.That is hypocritical.You HOPE the Sun is our creator because you can’t definitively prove it.If you think you can then provide us all with the definitive proof.
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Joshua, you are taking on too much for your capability. Most of us here are atheists of one sort or another. Most of us atheists can see the unreason of your arguments, which you apparently cannot do. Philosophers and trained theologists can understand opposed points of view.Joshua10 wrote: ↑October 8th, 2022, 3:54 amYou are preaching your religious beliefs again Sy Borg.You told me that that was against forum rules.That is hypocritical.You HOPE the Sun is our creator because you can’t definitively prove it.If you think you can then provide us all with the definitive proof.
Far from trying to discourage you I urge you to learn science not half -baked theories.
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Come on Belindi.Most of the forums these days do preach the atheistic religions or belief systems.They are religious belief systems until they have definitive proof which up to yet none of them have.We live in a predominantly atheistic world.I do know about natures science and philosophy and it ain’t atheistic science and philosophy.i know as much about magnetic interactions as I need to know which confirms that atheistic science and philosophy is based upon half logic.Belindi wrote: ↑October 8th, 2022, 4:07 amJoshua, you are taking on too much for your capability. Most of us here are atheists of one sort or another. Most of us atheists can see the unreason of your arguments, which you apparently cannot do. Philosophers and trained theologists can understand opposed points of view.Joshua10 wrote: ↑October 8th, 2022, 3:54 amYou are preaching your religious beliefs again Sy Borg.You told me that that was against forum rules.That is hypocritical.You HOPE the Sun is our creator because you can’t definitively prove it.If you think you can then provide us all with the definitive proof.
Far from trying to discourage you I urge you to learn science not half -baked theories.
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Joshua, nobody knows enough, not even you.Joshua10 wrote: ↑October 8th, 2022, 4:30 amCome on Belindi.Most of the forums these days do preach the atheistic religions or belief systems.They are religious belief systems until they have definitive proof which up to yet none of them have.We live in a predominantly atheistic world.I do know about natures science and philosophy and it ain’t atheistic science and philosophy.i know as much about magnetic interactions as I need to know which confirms that atheistic science and philosophy is based upon half logic.Belindi wrote: ↑October 8th, 2022, 4:07 amJoshua, you are taking on too much for your capability. Most of us here are atheists of one sort or another. Most of us atheists can see the unreason of your arguments, which you apparently cannot do. Philosophers and trained theologists can understand opposed points of view.Joshua10 wrote: ↑October 8th, 2022, 3:54 amYou are preaching your religious beliefs again Sy Borg.You told me that that was against forum rules.That is hypocritical.You HOPE the Sun is our creator because you can’t definitively prove it.If you think you can then provide us all with the definitive proof.
Far from trying to discourage you I urge you to learn science not half -baked theories.
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