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Unconscious belief in afterlife?

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Re: Unconscious belief in afterlife?

Post by Alias » November 11th, 2018, 11:54 am

Haicoway --- When I was wintering in Florida earlier this year, one I met there warned me if we were intimate that she might squirt milk on me as she was still lactating from a recent birth. I said I would love it, and she did. Another woman, who is not a girlfriend, but just friend, is a bee keeper and lavishes me with honey. I don't need grapes peeled, but I'm sure if I asked my girlfriends to do it, they would.
I don't believe a single syllable of this.
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Re: Unconscious belief in afterlife?

Post by SimpleGuy » November 11th, 2018, 1:56 pm

Indeed this is unconscious belief in afterlife.

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Re: Unconscious belief in afterlife?

Post by Haicoway » November 11th, 2018, 4:03 pm

I've heard enough, I get it. I guess I just like people more who let it all fly. And I identify with being an asshole, myself, so I'm outspoken, too.

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Re: Unconscious belief in afterlife?

Post by Haicoway » November 11th, 2018, 4:27 pm

Alias wrote:
November 11th, 2018, 11:54 am
Haicoway --- When I was wintering in Florida earlier this year, one I met there warned me if we were intimate that she might squirt milk on me as she was still lactating from a recent birth. I said I would love it, and she did. Another woman, who is not a girlfriend, but just friend, is a bee keeper and lavishes me with honey. I don't need grapes peeled, but I'm sure if I asked my girlfriends to do it, they would.
I don't believe a single syllable of this.
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People have called me a liar about stuff my whole life because I have led a much more interesting life than most people. A lot of it was created by being a millionaire starting at sixteen.

A colleague once asked me why I lied so much. I asked him what he meant. He told me a few things that luckily my wife was privy to. So the next time the guy was at my house I told him to ask my wife about my “lies.” He was satisfied after she recounted the events like I did.

If you would ever like to find out how, because you yourself are dull compared to me, you can be so wrong in your projections, I think I could prove what I said by letting you talk to a respected Harvard graduate, and now PhD student, who watched the woman do it the second time she did. In fact both of us took drinks of the sweet milk from the girl’s two breasts at the same time. I would put her on the phone, and from her demeanor, obvious high intellect, and casual way she would verify the event, I think you would believe she was not lying, even if you assumed I did.

But if you thought she was lying, too, you might give me credit for being clever enough to get an intelligent sounding woman to tell a stupid whopper.

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Re: Unconscious belief in afterlife?

Post by Eduk » November 11th, 2018, 5:10 pm

That's the problem really, even your lies aren't interesting.
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Re: Unconscious belief in afterlife?

Post by Haicoway » November 11th, 2018, 5:38 pm

You folks are living in Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood. Like you never heard of men drinking breast milk? Millions, if not hundreds of millions, of men have done it. Have you never noticed how many people are into all kinds of fetishes? The fetish community is enormous.

And I'll tell you, you can say what you like, but from my end looking at you and Alias, I say neither one of you has much character to call someone a liar without proof, especially when the event recounted is pretty mundane; unless, like I said, you are living in Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood.

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Re: Unconscious belief in afterlife?

Post by Alias » November 11th, 2018, 7:27 pm

Haicoway wrote:
November 11th, 2018, 5:38 pm
Like you never heard of men drinking breast milk?
They don't usually 'disclose' this tit-bit, particularly not juxtaposed with the other goody, immediately upon someone mentioning "milk and honey" . I did award you a point for pulling up short of having a supermodel slather you in honey.
BTW I didn't call you a liar; I merely stated that I don't believe your stories.

Now, have you anything less assholish to discuss than your own wonderfulness?

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Re: Unconscious belief in afterlife?

Post by Karpel Tunnel » November 16th, 2018, 5:54 pm

Jklint wrote:
November 6th, 2018, 7:16 pm
It's not an unconscious belief. It is a wishful thinking belief. The unconscious doesn't have or contain any beliefs.
Are you saying that you are aware consciously of all your beliefs?
This is very unlikely.

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Re: Unconscious belief in afterlife?

Post by SimpleGuy » November 19th, 2018, 7:46 am

To believe something is to assume a Postulate or some foundations of ones mind. Shouldn't we reformulate this as unconscious tendency's to believe in an afterlife ? For example belief-desire-Intention robotics , contains a belief , that is constantly reformulated via pre given signatures , which are then via unification of those signature experessions then intertwined with well known Facts or consequences of Facts. So this belief can be already formulated , unconsciousness is something not putten into direct formulation.

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Re: Unconscious belief in afterlife?

Post by SimpleGuy » November 19th, 2018, 7:48 am

A belief can be formulated via modal logic with necessary or possible, this cannot be done to an unconcious preposition.

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Re: Unconscious belief in afterlife?

Post by SimpleGuy » November 19th, 2018, 7:55 am

To believe in s.th. is the modal logic Expression that some Logical functionals dependent on reality are possibly true. Unconsciousness cannot be formulated in this context as a possible true set of Parameter dependent Relations at least in a General case.

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Re: Unconscious belief in afterlife?

Post by Papus79 » November 24th, 2018, 7:14 pm

Most people realize that they're overpowered and overmanned by their environments, exponentially, and they never realize it more so than when they have an unfashionable opinion. They could be absolutely certain in their heart of hearts that they didn't exist before they were born, will cease to exist when they die, and would still slink away from fights they can't win I suppose largely because they have no reason to believe that victory is anything more than numbers on their side.

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Re: Unconscious belief in afterlife?

Post by eyesofastranger » January 5th, 2019, 8:10 am

The life of a human animal can be summed up by his experiences, relationships and interactions within this world. Although a multidimensional universe may contain an imprint of that consciousness without the emotions that can only be achieved with the chemistry within the human brain, one thing is absolutely certain. Never has any contact been received from this realm, so as far as your Earthly life is concerned, you are certainly dead to this existence making any speculation of an afterlife a waste of time that could be better applied to relevant thought experiments.

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