Belindi wrote: ↑March 28th, 2020, 5:55 am
Creation wrote:
Remember that it was you who was the one who wrote that "God also transcends the universe and all in it". From what I have observed so far I do not see how this is at all possible. But, I await for someone to explain how it could be possible. I obviously may have overlooked something so far.
If you will, think of causes and effects. There are causal chains going back into time and I presume on onto the future.There are also causes that effect events in what we may call "the present" so for instance we have the coronavirus pandemic causing all sorts of events all at one time.
Already thought of, and I have already said and used cause and effect to explain what I have been saying.
Belindi wrote: ↑March 28th, 2020, 5:55 am
There is nothing that is not caused, and which necessarily happens due to predisposing or present causes.
I have said this and explained this before.
Belindi wrote: ↑March 28th, 2020, 5:55 am
But what caused existence itself? Not the events of existence, but existence itself?
To repeated and answer your two questions; Nothing, and, Nothing.
Existence has always, 'existed'.
If there is matter, then matter has always existed. There is matter, and therefore existence also eternally-NOW. So, there has always been existence, and there will always be existence.
Existence, Itself, is not caused. Existence IS always.
Belindi wrote: ↑March 28th, 2020, 5:55 am
The answer is either 1, God is the cause of itself and God did it, or
2. nature is the cause of itself and nature did it, or
3. God and nature are the same , God-or-nature is cause of itself , and God-or-nature did it.
In a sense, it could be all three. Because absolutely everything is relative to the observer, it all depends on how words are being defined.
But, let us say, God is Nature. Nature is not "causing" Itself. Nature is what just naturally happens. That is absolutely every thing. This is just Creation Itself.
There is not one thing that is 'created', and then does not evolve. Therefore, every thing is just in the One continually-evolving creating process, sometimes called 'Creation', Itself. There is no one thing that can 'cause' itself.
But we could say God is 'creating', or 'causing', It Self, but again this is a never beginning eternal process. When a Truly Self-Aware Being comes into Being, and thus absolute Self-Consciousness, then understanding how the Universe/God is creating Its Self will be understood. When the answer to the question, 'Who am 'I'?' is answered properly and correctly, then how exactly God is creating Its Self can be and will be SEEN and understood.
All of this can be back up and supported further with more evidence and proof.